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Subject: Re: Adams-Pocket Fritz: 1800-1900 Elo at best

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:35:28 07/01/01

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On July 01, 2001 at 02:11:32, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On June 30, 2001 at 23:02:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On June 30, 2001 at 17:17:41, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>
>>>Hi:
>>>If you look at the ganme Adams won to Pocket Fritz, you will concur that we are
>>>facing a program that, at least in this game, left the human side to kill him as
>>>a child. The most elemental king attack I have seen in years and nevertheles
>>>went OK. Blacks messing around in the queen side with no idea what to do as
>>>amads prepared the knife. Not even elemental defensives moves to prevent what
>>>was clearly coming with the obvious machine bishop-queen in the diagonal.
>>>Sorry, but I have a Fidelity old piece of plastic that plays better than that...
>>>Fernando
>>
>>
>>You sound surprised.  If you take a program that plays well at 1000K nodes
>>per second, and run it on hardware where it can only search 1K nodes per
>>second, what would you logically expect to happen?  It will play with 1/1000th
>>the skill (or even worse).
>
>In my opinion the whole Pocket Fritz concept is wrong. Why not use a more pure
>tactical program instead of SMK's Shredder that has too much knowledge to run on
>such a low hardware.
>Kurt

I do not believe that it has too much knowledge.

The problem is simply that it has not enough knowledge.
I do not believe that shredder has more knowledge than Junior and Fritz and I
can see it does positional mistakes that Junior or Fritz can avoid because they
have better positional understanding.

I also do not believe that a program with more knowledge should be weaker in
tactics.

The opposite.
A program with more knowledge should be stronger in tactics because of better
knowledge which lines to prune and which lines to extend and better order of
moves.

Uri



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