Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 19:52:35 06/09/98
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On June 09, 1998 at 21:10:24, Mark Young wrote: >On June 09, 1998 at 17:02:51, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>>Posted by Christophe Theron on June 09, 1998 at 14:01:59: >> >>>>My view, in total 30 >>4:30 vs 45:00<< games will be played. Imagine >>>>the following possible scores: >> >>>>a) 4:30 vs 45:00 5 - 25 --> Speed is decisive. >>>>b) 4:30 vs 45:00 10 - 20 --> My expectation. >>>>c) 4:30 vs 45:00 13 - 17 --> Speed is not decisive. >> >> >>>I you use the top programs currently competing in CCL, my bet is that >>>you'll get the 5 - 25 result. >> >>It's an old discussion. My view is that going from 5 to 6 ply is a lot >>more worth than going from ply 12 to 13 and going from 12 to 13 ply will >>gain more elo than going from ply 18 to 19. >> > >From the testing I have done in the past. I think that this view is most >probable correct. > >>IMO there comes a time (say about 10 years?) that a doubling of >>processor speed will gain only 2-5 elo points. How much worth is >>a doubling these days? A NPS tournament can reveal something about >>this. >> > >This might be true running todays programs, but you programmers are very >good at finding new ways of using spare CPU horsepower. > > > >>My speculation is 10-20 as the current top programs at such fast >>machines are already so good that they can't be slaughtered with >>your suggested 5-25. >> >>- Ed - >> >> >>>This just will tell us nothing. I suppose you think differently. So can >>>you please explain what kind of lesson you are expecting from this? >> > >It’s amazing just how little the creator truly understands the nature of >the monster he makes. Maybe I don't know my creature very well, but you can be sure I know it better than anyone else on earth. Gives you an idea of the kind of understanding most people (including on CCC) have about chess programs. :) >If we knew what lessons we would learn for running this experiment there >might not be a need to run it. You are right, that's why I added the following comments (see quote below): >>>But OK, as I said, this has to be done at least one time. >> >>>And BTW I hope to be wrong. I like to be surprised! >> >>> Christophe
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