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Subject: Re: The death of computerchess.

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 14:07:05 12/20/01

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On December 20, 2001 at 14:04:24, Christophe Theron wrote:

>120-150 amateur Winboard chess engines, 90%-95% of them being essentially
>partial Crafty clones (I mean using the same techniques, or only a subset of the
>same techniques).

How do you know? Some Harry Potter trick ? Alorama.

>
>I know you love these engines, but I fail to see what they are doing for the
>general audience interest.
>

Well - where did support of tablebases come from ? Book learning ?

Or let's talk about the GUI and the features : are all the commercial providing
better stuff than what you can get for free ?

>They are great achievements by the programmers, and I would not deny that. I
>know how a programmer feels when its engine works and starts winning games. I
>have felt the same several years ago, so I know they are proud and they are
>rightly so.
>
>But I view them essentially as personal achievements. They will be a
>contribution to computer chess only if their author keeps on developping them
>for 5 to 10 more years and if they manage to achieve major performance boosts
>with NEW techniques.
>

I think you are right with most of the very new developments. But there is a lot
in the amateur world that is original and not done by commercials so far. I know
about some things in Patzer for example or some things in Yace - and this is
only what _I_ know as a user ( it is safe to assume that we are talking about a
_very_ small subset of the real thing here) . I could try to babble about some
things done by Gerrit Reubold in Bringer, too.

Why isn't it enough to be at the top ? Is it really necessary to discard the
efforts of others who can only afford to spend so much less time in their work ?

Regards,
pete



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