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Subject: Re: GM Smirin vs 4 Comps - Match Predictions

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:19:13 04/17/02

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On April 17, 2002 at 01:30:44, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 16, 2002 at 22:39:31, Allen Lake wrote:
>
>>On April 16, 2002 at 12:52:53, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>My prediction is based on how well the Special opening book could have been
>>>prepared. If Jeroen did a serious research on the winning percentage that GM
>>>Smirin have with a certain opening and a loosing percentage as well, then the
>>>rest should be fine for Chess Tiger.  I also believe the the Deep Junior team
>>>did a good research on what opening to use against GM Smirin. That at least will
>>>get Deep Junior and Chess Tiger out of trouble in the first 12 moves. Also the
>>>CB Opening book should NOT be Used since GM Smirin has access to them.
>>>
>>
>>If it is okay (or even desirable) for the Tiger and Junior teams to use
>>published games to prepare anti-Smirin opening books for this match, why isn't
>>it okay for Mr. Smirin to use the Chessbase opening book to prepare anti-program opening lines for himself in this match?
>
>It is ok for smirin to use the chessbase opening book to prepare but it is also
>okay for the programmers to change the opening book.
>
>  Is it, perhaps, that his _superior_
>>knowledge of chess theory might provide him with the ability to find advantages
>>in subtle positions which cannot be calculated away by a state-of-the-art
>>computer program running on a modern computer system?  If so, how is that an
>>unfair advantage for Mr. Smirin?  After all, he has probably devoted at least as
>>many man-hours in developing that judgement as the programmers of the engines
>>have devoted in creating their powerful search and evaluation algorithms.
>>
>>If giving a GM access to the opening book of a chess program is detrimental to
>>the success of that program against the GM, doesn't that say enough about how
>>far away the programmers are from actually equalling the ability of that GM?
>>
>>My two cents worth.
>
>If giving a GM access to the opening book of a program is fair then it is also
>fair to give the humans who play against smirin all the information about the
>opening preperations of smirin before he play against them.
>
>I think that chess is a game that nobody should know the opening preperation of
>the opponent.
>
>You can also ask the following question:
>If humans need unfair means like getting the opening book and the opening
>preperation of the opponents(something that they never get against humans),
>does not this say enough about how far GM's are from actually equalling the
>ability of computers?
>
>Uri


No.  Human GM players prepart specific lines for their GM opponents _all_ _the_
_time_.  Traps.  Swindles.  theoretical novelties.  Etc...



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