Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:26:43 08/21/02
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On August 21, 2002 at 17:57:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 21, 2002 at 14:49:00, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On August 21, 2002 at 13:33:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On August 21, 2002 at 07:49:10, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On August 20, 2002 at 20:27:18, martin fierz wrote: >>>> >>>>In these days all programs were so bad that games were decided by >>>>who didn't give away most pieces *usually*. >>>> >>>>So in that respect all games from then are biased as the level of >>>>*every* participant was 600 points lower than they are now. >>> >>>That's wrong. We had >2200 programs back then. Belle was > 2200 in 1983. >>>In 1984 Cray Blitz was 2250 officially. Hitech was almost 2500 officially. >>>Deep Thought was >2600 officially. All of those "official" ratings were earned >>>by playing only humans, comp vs comp was never rated officially by any >>>organization we dealt with... >> >>Fritz3(p90) had also IM norm against humans but if you >>look at it's ssdf rating you can see more than 400 >>elo difference relative to the top programs. >> >>If you remember that A1200 that is used by the ssdf is not >>the best hardware you can say that Fritz3(p90) is almost 600 elo weaker than >>the top programs of today in comp-comp games. >> >>Fritz3(p90) played in 1995. >> >>Most Programs that played against deep thought played >>when p90 was not available. >> >>Uri > > >The discussion was about deep thought/deep blue. It was not horribly better >than _all_ its electronic opponents. Against the micros, yes it was pretty >hopeless. But there were lots of opponents they played that were not on >micros. Myself. Hitech. Lachex. Waycool. *socrates. You name it... What was the result of these players against the top micros? Uri
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