Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 22:11:01 09/13/02
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On September 13, 2002 at 16:47:20, Peter Skinner wrote:
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>>>Why get rid of something you installed yourself?
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>>You are getting dense, Peter.
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>No.. I think you just hate Microsoft and must rant against anyone who can get it
>to run properly.
:) :) :)
That must make approximately 2 or 3 people in the world.
You are the first of them. We are going to look for the two others and we call
you back when we have found them.
>>1) I did not install it.
>>2) I do not want it but was not allowed to buy the machine without it.
>>3) I CANNOT remove it.
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>You chose to buy a Toshiba laptop with it installed. Not me. I CHOSE to purchase
>Windows XP.
>
>If they don't want to sell you a laptop without an OS then that is their
>problem. You as the consumer _can_ go elsewhere.
Sounds very much like Microsoft propaganda.
I do not have other choices because Microsoft has used the power of its monopoly
to pressure the computer manufacturers in order to keep this monopoly.
That's finding of facts by a US court.
>I have bought many computers
>without an OS. It is not difficult to do. In fact my HP laptop came with Red Hat
>pre-installed. I have another Dell computer that came with _no_ operating
>system. It was a "configure to order" system.
Where I live the only reasonable choice for a notebook is Toshiba (because of
service and various reasons).
I have no problem with the Toshiba hardware, the only problem is that Microsoft
is on their back and forces them to ship their computers with XP exclusively.
>>>>It is difficult to know what it does exactly.
>>>
>>>Your the one at the controls...
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>>Good joke.
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>>The bloody stuff insists everytime I launch it to download things from the
>>Internet. Sometimes it starts downloading without asking. I have to click as
>>fast as possible on the Cancel button to stop the download.
>>
>>I DON'T WANT UPDATES TO BE INSTALLED AUTOMATICALLY.
>
>Ok simple.. right click on "My Computer", goto "Automatic Updates" and turn them
>off. Was that hard?
I knew you would say that and I have already given you the reason why it is not
acceptable.
>>Most updates from Microsoft are likely to BREAK something on my computer. I have
>>spent the last 20 years dealing with M$ software bugs, I know what I'm talking
>>about.
>
>You are an "experienced" Windows 9x user. Not a NT user. Get used to the new
>kernel and all goes well. Trust me. I have used Windows NT since 4.0 first came
>out. There definately is a learning curve that must be done.
That learning curve I will not take.
I will learn Unix/Linux instead. That's going to be time much better invested.
>>Now what I want is to be productive and stop spending most of my time on the
>>computer fixing the OS.
>
>Learn how to properly use it and you _can_ be productive.
No sorry. This bullshit is repeated by Microsoft since 20 years with the same
result year after year.
Look, I'm really stupid. I stopped believing them after 15 years.
Apparently there are people even more stupid than I am. But I'm confident they
will see the light.
>>I prefer to use buggy, slightly outdated software. Because once I have found a
>>way to workaround the bugs, I'm productive. If that crappy OS downloads updates
>>every day, I'm going to be faced with new problems daily.
>>
>>I don't care if it is possible to disable this behaviour somewhere.
>>
>>What matters is that 99% of the users are not able to find this setting. So 99%
>>of the users of that VIRUS are going to download and execute loads of programs
>>without their consent, and most of the time without even knowing it.
>>
>>That's exactly the definition of a virus. It's going to install and execute
>>without you knowing it.
>>
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>>>>Eventually it crashes your computer, leaving you in trouble.
>>>
>>>90% of Windows crashes are user related, or software conflicts between versions
>>>of programs that YOU install.
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>>That's not true and you know it.
>>
>>The OS is inherently lousy.
>>
>>An buggy application can corrupt the OS and crash every other running
>>application.
>>
>>Because of this, Windows hardly deserves to be called an "OS".
>>
>>My computer, when running Windows, crashes 10 times a day. Sometimes, just
>>closing an Internet connection crashes the system.
>>
>>I have *NEVER* seen this under Linux.
>>
>>But if all you know is Windows, sure you like it. Don't ever try anything else,
>>it would be a big shock for you...
>
>Look above and you can see I use Red Hat on my laptop and Windows on my home and
>office machines. I _know_ other operating systems enough to be productive in
>them. I am by no means a linux guru. I do _know_ how to use them though.
>
>I have been running Windows XP since it came out. I have _never_ had it crash
>other than due to a bad sound driver which under Linux can happen.
>
>As I said.. 90% of the crashes are USER related.
I think you should work at Microsoft. I'm sure they have a job for you in their
propagan... sorry, public relations departement.
Good luck with them.
Christophe
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