Author: Frank Phillips
Date: 12:27:47 10/10/02
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On October 10, 2002 at 14:58:19, Amir Ban wrote: >On October 09, 2002 at 17:48:43, Jason Jarrells wrote: > >> >> >> After what I have seen, I have NO doubt in my mind what so ever, that DEEP >>BLUE is superior to Deep Fritz. I am so tired of people saying that Fritz is >>superior to Deep Blue... That is total BS.. What do they base it one? I mean >>do they compare Hardware? LOL.. Deep Blue looked at 200,000,000 moves a >>second. Fritz sees 3,000,000 a second. Deep Blue gives Kasparov all he can >>handle and them some. It WINS!!! Deep Fritz on the other hand is getting >>OWNED!! TOTALLY ABUSED!! Kramnik isn't that much better then Kasparov. Some >>people say that Kasparov just can't play against computers. I don't buy that. >>We will se in a couple months. IF he abuses Deep Junior as Kramnik is to Fritz, >>then will that answer the questions about the strength of Deep Blue? That will >>be the strongest in my mind untill something can win over the best GM's. Or >>untill they put Deep Fritz on Deep Blue's hardware. Then and ONLY then will >>Fritz be stronger then Deep Blue. > >Deep Fritz evaluation is clearly better than Deep Blue's. I am open minded about this whole issue, but can someone please post some data to illustrate the point. In a earlier post it was asserted that certain aspects of commercials are better than Deep Blue; and then later the comment that examples could not be give because no one knew what commercials and Deep Blue do. Frank > >I believe this is also true for the tactics, but anyway even if I concede the >opinion of others that Deep Blue had awesome tactical powers, I note that this >awesome power was not demonstrated in its match with Kasparov, as none of its >wins or saves were due to tactics that are out of the reach of other programs >(with the possible exception of its 36th move of the 2nd game, which doesn't >appear to be due to tactics). > >As was discussed several times on this board, Deep Blue's legendary tactical >ability was never demonstrated by any move it made over the board in its career. > >Amir
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