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Subject: learning from other programmers.

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 03:00:07 10/29/02

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On October 28, 2002 at 12:09:37, Uri Blass wrote:

I hear only suggestions from dudes who hardly join tournaments.
You know shit from tournaments.

Of course you're too stubborn to learn, but how about the
human contact you have during the game which allows you to
ask Frans Morsch whether he finds nullmove a good algorithm
and to ask some other whether he still likes singular extensions?

They won't answer it on CCC. They do in such tournaments.

They won't answer it when something is automated, only some employee
who knows shit from chess will be checking whether it goes ok.

You remove the whole social contact from such a tournament! The
only interesting thing of most tournaments gets lost by doing things
automatically.

of course some here are too stubborn to learn from others, and
others do not care as they already did all experiments 20 years ago,
but there are many in these tournaments who like to learn stuff.

Also i would be wanting to know how i can connect a supercomputer to
the FICS protocol. I need SSH2 (if not already ssh3 exists) to connect
to it and i can't get outside with it.

Ever thought of that?

Disaster disaster already if you go manually. Imagine what happens
if i try automatically...

>On October 28, 2002 at 11:45:38, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On October 28, 2002 at 11:41:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>I think Uri meant the classic automatic tournament Ken Thompson and I tried to
>>>get the ICCA to use for many years.  Programmers are present, but the games are
>>>automatic once they are started.  IE you can watch, but you can't touch a key >on the keyboard.
>>
>>Ok, I see the point.
>>
>>My first thought is: many things that can go wrong setting up/with
>>the autoplayers.
>
>I think that there should be some general interface that supports winboard or
>UCI programs for games with 2 computers so at least programmers who support the
>standard do not need to test their programs with some autoplayer.
>
>I know that winboard or UCI engines have no problem to play under arena and if I
>understood correctly Arena is also going to support the autoplayer so I guess
>that there will be no problem to do it in the future.
>
>Uri



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