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Subject: Re: Introducing "No-Moore's Law"

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:23:24 03/01/03

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On March 01, 2003 at 11:58:14, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On March 01, 2003 at 10:39:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>The wider the gap in performance, the larger the price difference the public
>>will pay.  Compare a Caddy to a Saturn car, for example.
>That has more to do with name recognition and marketing than actual performance.
> GM tells you that a Cadillac is better than a Saturn, so people believe it,
>whether it's true or not.  BMW cars may have once been higher quality than GM
>ones.  Even though that's not necessarily the case today, they still command
>much higher prices, because people believe that they're better.

I don't know where you live, but it isn't in the _same_ world I live in.  People
don't buy a Caddy for the name.  They buy a Caddy for the quality that the Caddy
name implies.  You are turning the world completely upside down with that.  Do
you _really_ think GM could put a Caddy plate on a saturn and people would buy
it?  Of course not.  A simple test drive and that perfidy would be exposed.

>It's the reason Intel was able to sell their processors at higher prices than
>AMD, and sell several times more of them, even when AMD had a clear performance

Maybe.  Maybe Intel was also known for some good things.  IE the fact that the
current PIV will _still_ execute the original 8086 machine instructions.  Ask
sun what a mistake it is to break that consumer confidence and say "OK, for our
next generation processor, you get to throw away all your old software and buy
all new software..."  And they went from the largest academic workstation
supplier to a has-been overnight.

I consider Intel a "name brand".  I consider AMD a "copier".  Nothing wrong with
being a "copier" but it also means you are a "follower".  And 2nd place is all
that a follower can _ever_ reach...  I have nothing against AMD whatsoever.  But
I have had good results with Intel since my first 4004 on a breadboard, and I
have stuck with what works ever since.  By the same token I have owned multiple
Mercury outboards, even though there are cheaper ones from places like Japan.
But my mercs have been rock solid, produced more horsepower, and weighed less,
and those are important qualities and I don't leave a winning combination to
try something else someone is doing to try to catch up with Merc.

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