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Subject: Re: Confused

Author: Kimberly Ann

Date: 13:29:50 06/30/03

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On June 30, 2003 at 14:19:49, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>>>I have deleted Kim's initial two posts as "offtopic".
>
>I can't understand this.  Someone is complaining about a moderation decision.
>The charter says, that our posts should be "within reason, on the topic of
>computer chess".
>
>Of course, you can argue that posts arguing with moderator decisions are not on
>the topic of computer chess.
>
>The problem with this is that the moderators are elected by us, and so their
>actions are of interest to us.  If someone feels that they are wronged by a
>moderator, and complains about it, the rest of us should be able to see it,
>since this has a lot of bearing upon the way the forum is run.
>
>The moderators are in charge of the forum, but the members elect the moderators,
>and therefore the members have some right to know what the moderators are doing.
>
>In the past I have objected to these "disappearing" posts, and I continue to
>object to them.  I think that moderators have no business trying to quell
>dissent under the guise of deleting "off-topic" posts.
>
>Especially given that I scrolled down and saw a post from a moderator, about
>eBay.  The connection between eBay and computer chess is tenuous at best.
>
>bruce
 Hi Bruce !
 I'm for free speech 100%, but honestly I'd intended to take it up privately
with the moderator(s) and I tried many times to do so. They chose to ignore me -
or possibly were unable to respond, I really can't say thus i posted publicly
with the idea that the "exposed" nature would finally elicit some kind of
acknowledgement, and I was correct...still haven't recieved an private answer,
despite the few here that in fact criticised me for the public nature of my
complaint and suggested that the moderators would reply in private promptly-they
didnt, and havent.

 I do happen to find the vast majority of them very thoughtful individual BTW,
let that be understood!

 As to my posts being deleted as off topic...well, the 2nd post was expected by
me to "go away", I might have done the same...but I've touched on that...as for
my original post being "off topic" I found that to be humerous. Here's the topic
of my initial post : I'd thought, like many other chess servers and/or online
forums that it MIGHT be interesting for people who post on this site who happen
to live somewhat close to each other to possibly meet at an appropriate setting
( a chess club) and maybe discuss in person the same issues that directly relate
to this board. I personally find that the moderator who decided that chess
people discussing computer chess certainly IS on topic, that in fact is the idea
of the board...or perhaps it's changed and the title hasnt caught up. My
supposedly off topic post was removed but a follow-up with the absurd claims of
trouble and lawyers etc incited by my original post remains, placed by a
moderator. I doubt even Bobby Fischer is so paranoid as to actually buy that
lame excuse, but it was kind of funny. Truth is, there are other
clubs/groups/entities i the US that often do this same thing, on a local level.I
think with all that's happened the post was deleted coinciding with the fact
that I was strangely unable to log on(the screen told me I was banned) so I can
only guess that the moderator in question was being intellectually dishonest in
his claims of "off-topic"...let the reader decide for his/herself.I only offer
my opinion, but I might be somewhat baised now.

best always, Kim



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