Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 10:03:49 11/30/03
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On November 30, 2003 at 11:59:29, James T. Walker wrote: >On November 30, 2003 at 05:38:07, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On November 30, 2003 at 04:46:13, Jouni Uski wrote: >> >>>It means, that engine wants draw. No human intervention needed / allowed. >>> >>>Jouni >> >>Your one-liner in more detail: >> >>Go through the rules of any serious computer chess event, the emphasis is fully >>on the fact to eliminate all human intervention, there are 2 computer brains >>fighting the game of chess and any human interference in that fight should be >>avoided by all means. This is the spirit of comp-comp. >> >>Therefore I don't understand and it is against the spirit of the rules to >>suddenly introduce the human factor as an argument. >> >>If there was a technical draw on the board then the game is a draw, game >>finished. >> >>If there is a technical checkmate on the board the game is over too, no one >>would accept further play because a program has a bug and operators who mutually >>decide to continue anyway. >> >>My best, >> >>Ed > >Mate is a different rule Ed. To continue to play after checkmate has been >established would require you to make illegal moves to continue. Draws by >repetition/50 move rule are not "required" and games may continue in human >chess. Draws must be "claimed" by one of the players. If you want it different >in computer chess that's fine but it should be explicit in the rules and all >programs made to comply automatically. Just my opinion of course. >Jim This is _all_ wrong. This isn't about checkmate. I have seen computer chess events where a program played d8 and didn't promote. The TD said OK, one program thinks there is a pawn on d8, the other thinks there is a queen there. The game can continue, but if either program becomes confused and won't play on, the program that played d8 loses. That was an ok decision, and the program that played d8 went on to win anyway, with two pawns sitting on the 8th rank. Here, the case was different. The computer said "I claim a draw". but the human chose to ignore that and keep playing. _that_ is not allowed.
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