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Subject: Re: Do all Commercial programs analyze this Position like Deep Blue ?

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 04:15:31 05/31/04

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On May 30, 2004 at 14:58:45, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>
>Kasparov-Deep Blue
>Philadelphia (6) 1996
>
>
>The Opening has been a sucess for Kasparov. He has good central control, and
>prospects of a gradual queenside advance. More importantly, there is no direct
>plan for Black, so Deep Blue drifts for a few moves with disastrous
>consequences. The bishop is already a little clumpsy on d7; I suspect a strong
>human player would have sunk into thought, and devised a plan for deliverating
>his game.
>
>[D]r2q1rk1/pp1bbppp/2n1pn2/3p4/2PP4/1P1B1N2/PB1N1PPP/2RQ1RK1 b - - 0 1
>
>11...Nh5?
>This over-ambitious idea met with strong disapproval from most strong human
>commentators. However, Yasser Seirawan said "oddly enough, one well-known chess
>computer scientist suggested that the move may well be OK, but it might need a
>highly advandce program and computer in a few years' time to justify this move".
>I suspect that this is a case in point of someone believing that a strong
>chess-playing program is doing something profound, when in fact is just
>crunching numbers, Few GMs back in 1996 felt that 11....Nh5 was anything other
>than a bad move.

This type of position is very difficult for any chess program.

Sometimes, the engines will find some way to make a very strange move work, like
11. .. Nh5. Even in this case, it's not very good if a person is using an engine
to help him understand the position.

Note that search depth is not important here. For another example of this, see
Kasparov-Fritz, X3D, game 3, where Fritz was doing 18-19 ply in the middlegame.

There need to be some advances in the evaluation function.

Vas



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