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Subject: Re: 2nd game: Kiriakov, P - Shredder 8 (FINAL PGN)

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 14:05:16 06/13/04

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On June 13, 2004 at 15:20:48, Uri Blass wrote:

>On June 13, 2004 at 11:42:50, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 13, 2004 at 07:50:25, Rex wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Once again we see Petr show his anti computer playing style.  WHATS UP with
>>>these computer OP's.  They obviously dont understand you just cant load the
>>>"defaults" and expect to win against GM's.  There are Anti-Human settings that
>>>needs to be set in the personality editor if they expect to win.
>>
>>
>>     The way Petr Kiriakov played this game was fine. It was not
>>     a classical anti computer playing style. The GM cannot be
>>     blamed for the wrong opening choice (Kings Indian) of Shredder8
>>     I think. But the game proved once again what I have already
>>     mentioned many times: if GM's/IM's and even much lower rated
>>     players use a boring style, it will hardly be possible for programs
>>     to win a single game but computers will lose from time to time
>>     and the ratings of chess programs will drop be 200-300 Elo.
>
>
>I think that 2 draws are not enough games to prove your theory.
>
>If a human go to a long match of 100 games and win few games without losses or
>even with a single loss then your point is proved.
>
>I think that every player at GM level has practical chances for 2 draws also in
>a match against kasparov or kramnik.
>
>Uri


     Of course, two games do not mean much. But one thing is almost
     clear to me: computers play a complete different chess than
     humans. And as long humans play the usual style, it will be
     very difficult to compete with the best programs. If humans
     play a computer adapted style, the strongest programs will
     have (in my opinion) much less success. On the other hand,
     such a playing style may heavily hurt humans usual chess playing
     style. What to do in this situation: GM's/IM's and other players
     should only fight against computers for fun in order not to ruin
     their chess abilities.
     Kurt



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