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Subject: Re: Open letter by Eugenio Castillo (ELChinito team) ...

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 10:48:33 08/28/04

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On August 28, 2004 at 13:26:46, Andrew Williams wrote:

>On August 28, 2004 at 11:44:30, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On August 28, 2004 at 10:23:53, Frank Quisinsky wrote:
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>
>>>Eugenio sent us the following open letter.
>>>The letter is public on Arena webpages (News-Ticker).
>>>
>>>Best
>>>Frank
>>>
>>>Eugenio wrote:
>>>
>>>---
>>>
>>>"I've used crafty source to implement my own program ElChinito.
>>>
>>>My public and sincere apologize to Bob Hyatt not to mention that in ElChinito's
>>>readme file and copyright notes and did not ask consequently for permission. I
>>>will ensure that ElChinito is not longer public available for download and plays
>>>any public tournaments.
>>>
>>>I've inform ICGA and French Computer Chess Association about this issue to
>>>accept their decision, and discalificate Chinito from the played events.
>>>
>>>My apologize to Frank Q. for the damages caused.
>>>
>>>My apologize to any one of the tester and downloaders of Arena.
>>>
>>>Eugenio Castillo."
>>
>>
>>My respect to Eugenio Castillo for his late apology.
>>It seems that he had a hard time and a long fight to decide so.
>>
>>It was a severe offence of Eugenio, i understand that routines like NextMove
>>have another quality than some cray like bitscan routines or moveInput.
>>
>>Eugenio obviously used Crafty framework as a toolbox for the bitboard
>>infrastructure and parts of move generation and even minor parts of eval. He
>>was, probably due his naivety, not fully aware of the cloning issue or did
>>repress it in some way, after receiving no answer from Bob after some tries.
>>Didn't Dann Corbit mention Eugenio mailed Bob about that issue, but Bob didn't
>>receive for what reasons ever?
>>
>>It is difficult to quantify for me, but it seems that most of ElChinitos
>>strength was not based on Crafty but on Eugenio's own search and most parts of
>>it's evaluation.
>>
>>So i respect his decision to don't make ElChinito open source and i suggest to
>>give ElChinito a second chance after some time, until Eugenio assures that no
>>more parts of crafty are inside - IMHO.
>>
>>Gerd
>
>I think you're being WAY too lenient here, Gerd. You must be a nicer person than
>me!
>
>Andrew

Hi Andrew,
no, but what do you suggest?
A life time ban?
A therapy by Rolf?

Cheers,
Gerd



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