Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:20:31 02/16/05
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On February 16, 2005 at 13:58:21, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >On February 14, 2005 at 19:56:56, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 14, 2005 at 19:23:07, Thomas Mayer wrote: >> >>>Hi Arturo, >>> >>>> I did not tune the book against Movei.... I tune a book for a specific >>>> engine. Anthony accepted my help and I did my best in 2 short months. Of >>>> course, how could you understand that? >>> >>>we had that discussion already in several forums. Uri has his point of view >>>(which is IMO totally wrong) and will not change that... senseless to discuss... >>> >>>You might remember CCT4 -> Since then I had never again such a fantastic tuned >>>book for Quarks needs - it was the work of Leo Dijksman which he had done in >>>several month with thousands of games and analysis. Of course it was Quark which >>>was playing that tourney but it had a fantastic book that lead it to positions >>>it can play. And that is what a good book cooker should do, he should help the >>>engine to end up in positions after the opening where it knows what it should >>>do. The more time he can spent on that the better it will do. >>> >>>Vincencts 700 Elo might be a bit to high, but 300 is for sure a good number - >>>the difference between a random book and a well tuned book. Especially the >>>weaker or more unbalanced your engine is, the more it is important to have a >>>perfect book. >> >>It suggests that the engine is important because if the engine is not balanced >>you may solve the problem by doing it balance. > >Every component of software is important including the book. > >> >> Maybe for a weak engine even Vincents 700 is possible... >> >>I think that if the engine is too weak no book will help it unless you predict >>perfectly the opoenent moves. >> >>I do not see how you can do tscp 700 elo better by a book and tscp is not the >>weakest engine in the world. >> >>I guess that a book for weaker engines will be even less productive. > >How do you know that? What are you proofs? You only guess and how can you >support this? > >> >>If someone want to prove me wrong he is invited to try to improve tscp rating of >>1699 in the WBEC site to 2400(slightly better than Amateur,Betsy,Leila) >> >>The rating should hold also against new opponents(that were still not released) >>because when I talk about book the idea is not to have killer book that work >>only against specific opponents with known books that is of course possible >>after lot of work when you put win after win in the book. > >No, you are not so important so somebody wastes his valuable time in your absurd >contrdictions. :) It is enough to point your nonsense here. > >> >>Uri > >What you dont tunderstand is the Vincent's sense. Because your lack of >credibility, he just put a extreme point. You think that a no-book engine can >wint a Title.Prove that in Tournaments. I did not say that my engine can do it so there is nothing that I need to prove. I never claimed that movei can win a title. I do not think that it can do it today and even if I will think sometimes in the future that it can do it I plan to say nothing about it before it wins. Uri
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