Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:15:37 08/12/05
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On August 12, 2005 at 05:46:42, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >On August 07, 2005 at 00:12:15, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 06, 2005 at 21:27:32, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >> >>>On August 06, 2005 at 20:15:07, gerold daniels wrote: >>> >>>>Would it have much of an impact on the commercial Programs. >>>> >>>>Gerold. >>> >>>I don´t think it will have a strong impact for the Comercial Programs. >>> >>>However, your question is too too wide and any answer is a mere speculation. >>> >>>Ok, my answers (speculations) >>> >>>1) Fruit could become comercial. >>> >>>2) It would be a great surprise because it would be the first free chess program >>>with open source in winning a Title. >> >> >>Oops. :) > >This Oops means you asphyxiated. > >> >>Cray Blitz won several, and it was always "open source" as well. :) >> >>The chess 4.x guys distributed their source thru the CDC user's group as well... > >Was Cray Blitz and Chess 4.X Amateur Engines? As far as I know, Chess 4.X was >the strongest engine in the 70s but was it considered an Ameteur? The same >question goes for Cray Blitz. By any standard used by the ICCA/ICGA, yes. Just as Crafty is amateur today. And both programs were public source as well as several others, dating back to say COKO in the first ACM computer chess event in 1970, to mention just one... If you consider crafty an amateur program today, then CB has to be the same. I was the author. Was working at a university during the development, was at UAB for the last 10 years of CB's playing years (1985-1994)... Not sure how else it could be considered anything but amateur based on the current ICGA definition of "amateur, semi-professional and professional" (all of which are a complte crock in my opinion, but that is another subject..) > >For me, Fruit would be the first engine in reaching an Official WCCC Tournament. >Does it hurt your pride? No pride involved. Just facts. But claiming that (if fruit were to win) that it is the first public-source amateur program to win the WCCC would simply be dead wrong. Chess 4.x in 1977, CB in 1983/1986 were all open source and amateur by today's definition.
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