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Subject: Re: Yes,this game must stay in the chess history of 'crappy father games

Author: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Date: 07:31:17 11/24/05

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Hello A. Steen.
The problem of antichess is more complex that its looks in a simple evaluation.
To fix engines will create not compatibles paradigmas : Why ? >
1- Bercouse Top engines that will be fixing, wont be Word Chess Computer
Champion in a combat  between engines that have present kind of  module
preferences.
2- And about Top human beings chess players..... What are they going to do? They
are going finally been playing a pure antichess(at lest some times), becouse
they are going to be in serious trobles with many many "anticomputer experts"
that know that they are not making a good Job like last game from Ponomartiov
against Junior.
3- In my humbble opinion =  There are not solution, ............ the paradigmas
are going to be broken ......... and a "new chess will be played by the best
human beings" ,,,,,,,antichess=destructive chess=chess in the other fase of the
coin= a chess where you only want to be runing from the oponent to destroy
him-her-it .......etc
Best,
Pablo


On November 23, 2005 at 19:45:29, A. Steen wrote:

>On November 23, 2005 at 10:04:47, Dr. Wael Deeb wrote:
>
>>....are you seriously recommneding to save your games as an exeptional ones?If
>>you speak seriously,you must proceed for a serious psyheatric check up my
>>friend!!
>
>While it is extreme and unacceptable to suggest that a psychiatric remedy may be
>needed, I too find these games a little distasteful.
>
>Novices and patzers (i.e., as far as I have sampled to date, the local
>population) may think they actually are learning something chessical from these
>miscellaneous oscillations. :(
>
>Perhaps this nouveau "chess knowledge" makes such claim that GM Kasimdzhanov's
>brilliancy on move 26 of his round 1 match vs Hydra at Bilbao was a blunder, or
>a prelude to a suicidal attack, etc.  In fact it leads to a safe draw provided
>K. does not blunder.
>
>But I digress.  Back to these oscillations!  It is a psychiatric fact, and I
>speak with some knowledge here, that contemplating monotonical oscillatory
>movements with certain frequencies can induce a variety of disturbances. :)
>
>However, you may have overlooked that there is a small benefit from this type of
>unchessical thing.
>
>"Father" is costing these chess engines "points". :)
>
>Maybe this will in some way result in pressure on authors to eventually work to
>ensure that their programs deal with these issues -
>clock-handling in closed positions
>avoiding closed positions
>breaking out of closed positions, sacrificing if necessary
>
>[D]6rk/3bb2q/np1p2rn/1NpPp2p/1PP1PpP1/P2Q3P/1R3NP1/3BBRK1 w - - 0 30
>
>What, for example, could make any reasonable player think that the above
>position is "+= or better for white"?  Just look at what is bearing down on the
>hapless WK.
>
>These oscillations!
>
>What do you think, both of the positive aspects of these "chess" games (i.e., to
>motivate authors) and of the negative (see above).
>
>Best,
>
>A.S.



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