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Subject: Re: A New Topic: How Much Testing to get rid of the ChessFactor?

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 05:54:39 01/26/06

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On January 26, 2006 at 08:43:36, Günther Simon wrote:

>On January 26, 2006 at 08:29:41, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>This is a new question IMO. How much testing must be done before you can assume
>>that the factor chess doesnt play a decisive role regarding the results? Test
>>positions were mentioned. Nunn opening lines. When could we make conclusions
>>that now it's time to publish a realy true ranking of quality for chess engines?
>>Just to clarify, I dont mean "normal" probability changes and boundaries.
>
>The chess factor (strength in playing chess)is exactly what should be measured,
>thus I don't understand what you mean by gettin' rid off that?
>Can you explain better what you liked to question?
>(The last two sentences even don't make any sense in English?)
>
>Guenther


Thanks for asking.

I dont need to lecture about the concretness of chess. I mean from when on could
we speak of such engine strength without having to fear that a special position
or line or problem does NOT appear. Because we know that if it appears that then
the strongest engine plays nonsense. Out of principal reasons I mean. That
doesnt happen among chessplayers. There the Elo number reflects a general
quality of play. I must always think of my subject line when experts like Hyatt
inform us how low the general knowledge of the engines still is regarding King
safety, just to begin with. In other words I ask, from when on, already now?,
could we speak reasonably of chess strength of engines if they behave like nuts
in certain basic situations?

In the past we had a different debate. From what ply depth on we could speak of
almost not improvable strength for a chess engine? Regarding the general
requirements of the Middle Game.

So to give it in easy speaky: when is the moment we must not consider special
chess situations/problems if we are talking about a strong engine?



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