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Subject: Re: Poll Question for "If Computers are finally as Strong as GM's"

Author: Sarah Bird

Date: 21:37:10 06/22/99

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On June 22, 1999 at 20:12:22, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 22, 1999 at 15:41:58, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>I think different versions of Junior have logged in
>>40/2 tournament games against strong humans. Anyone have stats on these
>>results? I vaguely recall it doing quite well even on slower hardware.
>>
>>What is the time control for the upcoming Karpov - Shredder game?
>>
>>Slowly a collection of tournament condition
>>40/2 encounters will put to rest the speculation.
>
>
>Just so we follow formal 'sampling theory' here.  IE we do _not_ want to pick
>a good result by Junior without picking all the bad results.  Easier is to take
>these Rebel games and other acceptable games as they are played, rather than
>going back.  Because to sample backward you have to include _all_ the data
>points, else 'cherry-picking' will greatly bias the result...

Following excerpt is from IM Larry Kaufman's review of Hiarcs 7
"HIARCS, by Applied Computer Concepts Ltd. with chess engine by British
programmer Mark Uniacke, has been one of the very strongest programs for the
last several years. The current version, 7.0, is apparently no exception. The
latest Swedish rating list (the most widely accepted standard for comparing
computer programs) ranks it third, just an insignificant 9 rating points behind
the co-leaders (CM 6000 and Fritz 5.32) and substantially ahead of the latest
rated versions of such strong programs as Junior, Rebel, MChess Pro, and Genius.
Moreover it is up an impressive 43 points from its predecessor, Hiarcs 6. To
fully appreciate just how strong Hiarcs 7 is, consider that its Swedish rating
of 2567 was earned on hardware (200 MHz MMX) markedly inferior to the latest
models (450-500 MHz). Moreover, the Swedish ratings are particularly severe,
almost certainly more conservative than FIDE ratings and far below USCF ratings.
These ratings are based on 40/2 games with other computers, with the overall
level of the list based on games with human competition some years ago. Although
I suspect that the level of the top computers may be a bit overstated now due to
failure to recalibrate the list based on today's GM level computers, this should
be offset by the severity of Swedish ratings in the past, so my guess is that
the 2567 rating at 200 MHz would hold up in FIDE competition today, which would
imply a FIDE rating over 2600 on today's fast machines. In other words, HIARCS 7
plays tournament chess on a par with the top five players in the U.S. This in
turn implies that at action chess (game/30') HIARCS 7 probably plays around 2700
FIDE level, on a par with the number ten player in the world, and should play
blitz better than Kasparov, Kramnik, and Anand."








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