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Subject: Re: WCCC and some NPS observations

Author: blass uri

Date: 12:08:12 06/23/99

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On June 23, 1999 at 14:27:31, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>Fritz and Junior make their mistakes when their score is
>draw-like. the draw score shows: i have no idea what happens.
>and it appears almost every move :-))

In most of their games in WCCC they won so it does not appear in most of the

Wrong scores may appear in positions that they do not have the right evaluation.

Wrong scores may be draw scores but may be also other scores.

I do not agree that the draw score shows that they have no idea what happens.
There are many cases when a draw score is showing that the position is a draw
and many other cases when a draw score is showing equal position with practical
chances for both sides.

Junior won most of the games in WCCC
and it did not play against weak opponents(all the opponents of Junior scored
more than 50%)

I think that it drew a game against Hiarcs because of bad opening preperation
(Junior showed negative evaluation out of book).

It also lost against Fritz because of bad opening preperation of GM boris
Alterman gave Junior the right line and Junior had a winning position out of
book but alterman did not give it more moves so Junior did not know how to
continue because alterman's idea is too deep also for other programs so Junior
could not see it.

I think that most humans also cannot find the idea of alterman if you do not
give them more details.


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