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Subject: Re: A question about underpromotion danger

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:30:38 08/04/99

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On August 04, 1999 at 14:40:31, KarinsDad wrote:

>On August 04, 1999 at 14:09:18, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On August 04, 1999 at 12:16:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>As a 'for instance':
>>>
>>>Suppose that on promotion, a program sees that it can promote to a knight
>>>instead of a queen, and get a king fork, taking a bishop, followed by a queen
>>>fork, taking the other bishop.  In such a case, it might evaluate:
>>>   -pawn+knight+bishop+bishop+two_bishop_bonus+(minor positional goo)
>>>verses
>>>   -pawn+queen
>>>and get something a fraction more valuable than a queen.  But down the road I
>>>would rather have the queen than a knight and remove the two bishops.
>>>
>>>How do programs deal with this?
>>
>>You are really saying you'd rather have a queen against two bishops than be a
>>knight up, right?
>>
>>bruce
>
>Actually, assuming an equal game, it is a preference of being up a queen for a
>pawn as opposed to being up a knight and two bishops for a pawn.
>
>Of course, decisions like these are always based off of the actual position, but
>here is a comment Kasparov made just the other day on Ponomariov - Al Modiakhi
>in round 1 of the championship:
>
>"Looking at Ponomariov's 7.Be3 with 8.Bb6 I have sensed chess of the very
>distant future. With my limited knowledge of the game I would consider 3 minor
>pieces in such position much better than Queen+pawn".
>
>So, there are obviously positions where having 3 minors is better than having
>the queen.
>
>KarinsDad :)


I think that in almost _all_ cases, three minors pieces are better than a
single queen.. and most games I have seen where this happens are wins for the
three minors.  I don't like two minors and 3 pawns vs a queen however, unless
maybe if the pawns are all on the 6th rank or farther along.  :)



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