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Subject: Re: CSTal2.03-Nimzo98, games 8-10/10, finished

Author: Harald Faber

Date: 06:22:24 09/25/99

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On September 25, 1999 at 08:53:40, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On September 25, 1999 at 05:36:15, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>How comes that I expected this argument?
>>1) a program should play well on each hardware, especially well when playing
>>another opponent on same or even slower hardware
>
>you don't understand how programs are developed and tuned and tested.

If this is meant that I do not adjust my hardware to special program requests,
yes. And especially not when YOU say "for accurate CSTal play, one needs at
least an AMD-K6-3-500 or K7-XXX". And I still doubt CSTal then can compete with
the other top programs, because, don't forget, the others get the speed profit
too. Except you want to try CSTal/K7-600 vs MCP/166MMX. :-)

>>2) I bet that if I had 2 K6-3-400 and would play this match again, the result
>>would not differ much and again you would want a faster hardware.
>
>i am sure whenever YOU would test something you don't like, it would
>fail in your testings, yes.

You are absolutely wrong. I really HOPED to see Tal win. But I cannot change
facts.

>>Isn't it strange that you always find excuses when Tal loses, Don Quixote?
>
>i don't find excuses when it loses. i do find strangeness in your testing-
>environment.

Now finally you really got mad. I did exactly what you asked for, except that I
am not that fool to buy 2 new PCs for $2000-$3000 to get Tal run on an
"accurate" machine. Your behaviour looks like Chessbase autoplayer. Absolutely
stupid.

>Your way of handle losses of other programs against tal
>is comments that i am cheating, and when others have results pro tal
>you don't comment at all. so i don't see why your kind of REaction
>is with higher moral than mine , Homo Faber.

Show me more results than a) your results and b) more than this posted 2-2
against Hiarcs7.32 and don't forget to sum up the Tal losses like that 6-0 or my
7.5-2.5.

>>And Patzers ALWAYS have excuses when they lose.
>
>now you speak about yourself ?

I do not excuse a thing. You always excuse the losses. First it was the version.
Now it is the hardware although Tal used 50% faster hardware than the opponent.
I wonder what you'd have said if I had played on 2 K6-3-500, probably that I
should have used the K7 or P3 or any other senseless story.

>>The only way to stop critics like me is to show me/us much better results or let
>>me/us reproduce better results.
>
>Others HAVE shown you better results. you don't react in words. you lose the
>power of speech in the moment the world produces data you don't like.

There was none except in your dreams and in your tournaments.

>and all the others here having posted good results and data ?

All the others? I must be blind having overseen hundreds of posters with super
results.

>>>it was not designed to play what YOU call "sound" sacs.
>
>>Then it plays like mad because what I call sound is an attacking sac which leds
>>to a win or if it was not really correct, leads to a draw. I do not need
>>incorrect sacs.
>
>And i don't need you.
>you are as senseless as an incorrect sac is.

Typical for you. No more arguments so you go one step further onto the personal
level. Childish.

>people like you always complaining - testing in strange ways - cstal does not
>need you. better delete it from your harddisc. we will have to change
>the licence agreement of cstal3: people like harald should better not
>buy cstal. they are forbidden to buy it. we will make a command that erases
>the harddisc in the moment it recognized that it is harald. :-)

You do not need to fear that I will buy another version of CST and complain
until more than 2 persons except you find out that Tal can compete with the top
programs.

>>For YOU, yes, because I cannot show discrediting results anymore and you can
>>continue your false propaganda.
>
>i am not doing any propaganda. propaganda is what YOU do: posting things
>without having the hardware nor the software nor the knowledge nor the
>data to say something. it is YOU posting prejudice, not me.

Of course, you are absolutely objective, posting only the few Tal wins and
hiding the losses.

>I do have the hardware, the software and the data and have tested the programs
>long time before i post.

Maybe you need such a long time to get 2 or 3 wins. :-)
And your hardware argument is absolutely rubbish.




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