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Subject: Re: Athlon 1,1GHz

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:51:12 02/14/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 16:19:54, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On February 14, 2000 at 13:55:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>Tom, please.   Cray makes the fastest machines on the face of this planet.
>>These machines sell for up to 60 million dollars.  Do you _really_ think that
>>_anything_ is "not worth the trouble to them?"  They do _everything_ possible
>
>Bob, please. I know there are things that are not worth the trouble to them.
>Does Cray only make computers with GaAs processors?

No.  Wrong company.  Seymour left cray to make the cray-3 using gallium.  Cray
research has stuck with traditional silicon.  Cray computers (Seymour's old
company) went belly-up a year or so before he was killed in a car crash.  He
delivered 1/4 of one machine to NCAR.

>
>>However I still think that the gains are from raising the core cpu voltage
>>more than from trying to lower the core cpu temperature...
>
>Like I said, I don't know what they're doing. Maybe they do raise the voltage a
>lot. My only (and original) point is this: it's not inconcievable that the
>Athlon is extremely stable at 1GHz. Increasing Vcc will lower the switching
>times. So will lowering the temperature. As long as the switching times can be
>lowered enough, the chip will be stable. That's it. As long as you can accept
>these simple facts, I don't see why we're arguing.
>
>-Tom


Anything is possible.  However, if it were stable at 1ghz I suspect they would
be selling it at 1ghz (AMD) rather than 750??

However, it is an interesting concept, although I am not impressed so far as
these boxes don't seem to be horribly reliable.



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