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Subject: Re: Now it's clear that Ritter Rost's post is not a fake

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:54:00 04/11/00

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On April 11, 2000 at 04:58:45, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On April 10, 2000 at 20:43:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 10, 2000 at 16:43:05, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>Fine. Then don't vote for any of us for next term.
>>>-Tom
>>
>>
>>Not a problem.  Didn't vote for you this time.  Thought you were too young
>>and hot-headed to be a moderator.  Nothing has changed that opinion yet...
>
>You seem to be ignoring the fact that moderation is a team effort here.

No I'm not.  When a police officer sees something obviously illegal under
way, he takes care of it first, and then asks questions to see if his initial
action was proper.  I only suggested that when you read the thing, you should
have immediately removed it and emailed the poster to make certain that he had
permission.  If he did, he could have told you and re-posted the thing.

I don't like the idea of leaving private email in a public place, while someone
tries to determine if the email was posted with or without permission, or if it
was posted by the actual author or someone else.

Doesn't that make sense?  "private" is "PRIVATE".  Unless the original author
chooses to make "private" into "PUBLIC".

That was my point.  When you originally read the thing, you should have canned
it immediately and contacted the poster.  That is what I would have done had it
happened while I was a moderator.

There are maybe a couple of circumstances where this could be violated.  But
this didn't fall under either umbrella...


>
>You can't insult me for "my" decision. It was also the decision of my fellow
>moderators, so you might as well be insulting them too. I don't appreciate that
>because Andrew and Dave are great people and a pleasure to work with. Actually,
>Bruce Moreland posted to the thread, encouraging me NOT to delete it. Bruce and
>I may have our differences, but I think he was a fine moderator, too.

I wasn't trying to insult you period.  I said "asleep at the switch" which
is _exactly_ the right metaphor.  You were at the switch, you read the email,
but you were asleep and let it stand.  I notice that another moderator said it
has now been deleted, which is good.  It _should_ have been deleted as soon as
it showed up.  It is ridiculous to ask for confirmation _here_ as that lets
the original private email stay online as well, which is wrong.



>
>I think it's stupid to hold ME responsible and call ME names for a mistake that
>slipped by all four of us. (Actually, I still contend that it wasn't a mistake.
>So do most people, it seems.)
>
>-Tom


I didn't call you _any_ name. I said "you were asleep at the switch".  Nothing
more, nothing less.  Simply means you didn't react in a timely manner.  And if
most people consider this "not a mistake" why did the post get removed?  But
in any case, legal issues are not subject to opinion poll.  An action is legal
or illegal based on the facts, not on public opinion...



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