Author: Mogens Larsen
Date: 04:30:03 05/11/00
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On May 11, 2000 at 05:49:07, Chessfun wrote: >The exact same time control is irrelevant since playing 1/0 2/0 3/0 5/0 >10/0 25/0 60/0 120'/40 60'/20 30 covers the field. And since in most cases the >scores were similar playing 15/0 or 5/5 would result in the same score within >a reasonable percentage and since these scores are nothing like Jouni's there >is no way 15-5 to F6 at say 5/0 would change to 12-8 crafty at 5/5. Since you haven't tested games with increment you have no idea whether Jouni's test was correct or not. 12-8 is indeed a probable result no matter how many timecontrols you check. It may not as probable as 15-5, but noone claimed it was. >No, in my opinion it is true and I know it. The learning is a problem with the blitz games and the autoplayer is a problem with the ponder on games. Correct me if I'm wrong. >I don't see the issue with learning, it may be a factor, it is also a factor >both programs have built in. It is also a fact that Jouni's scores which were >the original intent to check were obtained with learning on. >Mine never started out as being any more advanced or extensive than Jouni's. >The questions revolved around mine from the start. Jouni's tests are always with learning off as he stated in a later publication of test results I believe. >There were a number of posts implying I was biased against Crafty. >The variables were addressed. And they were small there are no big >variables worth the kind of attention my posts get compared to others. I apologize for the accusation I made regarding you being biased and the shenanighan's remark as well. I think you should sit down, relax and consider the variables again, but that's only a suggestion. >That was a fact. How many other game scores do you for example pose questions >of setup on. Remember Chris Taylor's 40 min blitz. Your only question there >for example was what was the time control. This despite chris playing on >two different computers, which left open a myriad of questions based on a 9 >round tourney. Did you ask any of those questions? did you ask about the >autoplayer, did you question any of the results?. No you didn't. The results were posted by Chris Taylor without conclusions of any kind. It was an ordinary chess program tournament made for fun, not a test/study with the intended purpose of proving something. There's a substantial difference. At least there is for me. I could have commented on Jounis recent test, but Dann Corbit did that instead. I've already explained why I couldn't comment on Jounis "famous" 12-8 result for Crafty against Fritz. >Therefore my conclusion is clear and supported by fact. Not really. >The idea initially as stated was to see if as Jouni stated Crafty could >beat F6 at Nunn 1 blitz. This developed into the ponder issue. >That is the truth. It is true that I did not believe Jouni's score, but I >went into it with an open mind as far as it being within the realm of >possibility. > >The test isn't yet complete. Upon completion I will post the results >and comparative data. Thank you. >The Ip's adresses: > >Mogens IP >212.10.80.124 non static received >212.10.24.241 non static received > >inetnum: 212.10.80.0 - 212.10.95.255 IP range >netname: STOFANET-9 > >Chessfun IP >24.15.180.95 Current non static > >ATHOME 24.0.0.0 - 24.23.255.255 >@Home Network 24.15.176.0 - 24.15.191.255 Just out of curiosity, does this prove there's anything fishy with my identity? I would like to know if I'm someone else. Sincerely, Mogens
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