Author: blass uri
Date: 13:38:49 07/19/00
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On July 19, 2000 at 16:06:46, Victor Valenzia wrote: >On July 19, 2000 at 14:33:00, blass uri wrote: > >>On July 19, 2000 at 14:17:02, B. Clark wrote: >> >>>On July 18, 2000 at 23:06:55, Chris Carson wrote: >>> >>>>On July 18, 2000 at 22:54:22, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>> GM - Nick de firmian author of MCO-14 and who worked with the IBM Team as the >>>>>specialist who prepared Deep Blue's special opening moves for its two victories >>>>>explained on his introductory of his latest Modern chess Opening that Kasparov >>>>>played much worse than usual, trying faulty Anti-computer strategy when he would >>>>>likely have won by normal play. Later on on page 87 of his MCO 14th Edition he >>>>>explained that on the second game where Kasparov's lost to deep Blue Deep Blue >>>>>emerged with a large opening advantage (before it even began to think" ) which >>>>>put kasparov in a hole. In that game Kasparov using the closed defense of the >>>>>smylov variation faced a prepared opening by De Firmian where deep Blue vs >>>>>Kasparov played 19.a4 Nh4?1 20. Nxh4 Qxh4 21.Qe2 Qd8 22.b4 Qc7 23.Rec1 c4 >>>>>24.Ra3 Rec8 25.Rca1 +- and white won in 45 moves. As I explained in 3. Kasparov >>>>>was a single opponent known to the team of Deep Blue specially where Nick de >>>>>Firmian prepared a special opening lines in case Kasparov dicided to play the >>>>>closed defense of the Ruy Lopez which he did. It is very different when you have >>>>>to face 9 different opponents as deep Junior did at the Dortmund without >>>>>preparing any special opening lines against any of the opponents, but the humans >>>>>opponents some like Kramnik decided to play a very effective Anti-Computer >>>>>strategy such as the stone Wall Defense. >>>>> >>>>>Pichard. >>>>> >>>> >>>>This is a very good point by GM De Firmian. The IBM team had a huge >>>>advangate that the DJ team did not. 97 DB had the advantage of >>>>preparation against Kasparov and no games for Kasparov to prepare >>>>with. If Kasparov could have practiced against DB the way DJ is >>>>out there, the result would have different (in my opinion). :) >>>> >>>>This was an awsome performance by DJ. Played toe to toe with >>>>the top GM's! :) >>>> >>>>Best Regards, >>>>Chris Carson >>> >>>One thing that is often overlooked is that Kasparov totally choked in the final >>>game against DB. It wasn't necessarily outstanding play by DB, but rather >>>Kasparov falling for a well known trap that most 2100 players would have >>>avoided. >>> >>>Brett >> >>Kasparov did not play well in the last game(I think that he played worse than an >>IM in this game) but he did not fall for a well known trap. >> >> >>Nxe6 is a bad move of Deeper blue and kasparov did not defend well. >> >>It is not a well known trap. >>If you try the position after Nxe6 in comp-comp games you may discover that >>black is winning. >> >>kasparov did some mistakes in this game when fxe6 was probably the first of them >> >>Uri > >You may be right, but there is no question that Kasparov played far below his >ability in this match. Call it "nerves", "choking", "being psyched out", or >whatever; the result is the same. I have often wondered if a player like >Karpov, who by nature is a quiet, positional player, would have fared better >against Deep Blue. > >Victor He could probably play better the last game but could not play better against deeper blue in the all macth. Karpov had problem against Deep thought and could win it only because of the fact that deeper blue blundered in a drawn rook endgame. Karpov is not known to be a strong player against computers based on the history. I do not think that positional players can do better results against computers. It may be the opposite. Players who are good in tactics can avoid tactical traps against computers and win because of their better positional knowledge relative to the computer. Uri
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