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Subject: Re: Kasparov played much worse than usual, According to de Firmian !

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 02:25:12 07/20/00

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On July 19, 2000 at 16:38:49, blass uri wrote:

>On July 19, 2000 at 16:06:46, Victor Valenzia wrote:
>
>>On July 19, 2000 at 14:33:00, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>On July 19, 2000 at 14:17:02, B. Clark wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 18, 2000 at 23:06:55, Chris Carson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 18, 2000 at 22:54:22, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> GM - Nick de firmian author of MCO-14 and who worked with the IBM Team as the
>>>>>>specialist who prepared Deep Blue's special opening moves for its two victories
>>>>>>explained on his introductory of his latest Modern chess Opening that Kasparov
>>>>>>played much worse than usual, trying faulty Anti-computer strategy when he would
>>>>>>likely have won by normal play. Later on on page 87 of his MCO 14th Edition he
>>>>>>explained that on the second game where Kasparov's lost to deep Blue Deep Blue
>>>>>>emerged with a large opening advantage (before it even began to think" ) which
>>>>>>put kasparov in a hole. In that game Kasparov using the closed defense of the
>>>>>>smylov variation faced a prepared opening by De Firmian where deep Blue vs
>>>>>>Kasparov played 19.a4  Nh4?1 20. Nxh4 Qxh4  21.Qe2 Qd8  22.b4 Qc7  23.Rec1 c4
>>>>>>24.Ra3 Rec8  25.Rca1 +- and white won in 45 moves. As I explained in 3. Kasparov
>>>>>>was a single opponent known to the team of Deep Blue specially  where Nick de
>>>>>>Firmian prepared a special opening lines in case Kasparov dicided to play the
>>>>>>closed defense of the Ruy Lopez which he did. It is very different when you have
>>>>>>to face 9 different opponents as deep Junior did at the Dortmund without
>>>>>>preparing any special opening lines against any of the opponents, but the humans
>>>>>>opponents some like Kramnik decided to play a very effective Anti-Computer
>>>>>>strategy such as the stone Wall Defense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This is a very good point by GM De Firmian.  The IBM team had a huge
>>>>>advangate that the DJ team did not.  97 DB had the advantage of
>>>>>preparation against Kasparov and no games for Kasparov to prepare
>>>>>with.  If Kasparov could have practiced against DB the way DJ is
>>>>>out there, the result would have different (in my opinion).  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>This was an awsome performance by DJ.  Played toe to toe with
>>>>>the top GM's!  :)
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>>Chris Carson
>>>>
>>>>One thing that is often overlooked is that Kasparov totally choked in the final
>>>>game against DB.  It wasn't necessarily outstanding play by DB, but rather
>>>>Kasparov falling for a well known trap that most 2100 players would have
>>>>avoided.
>>>>
>>>>Brett
>>>
>>>Kasparov did not play well in the last game(I think that he played worse than an
>>>IM in this game) but he did not fall for a well known trap.
>>>
>>>
>>>Nxe6 is a bad move of Deeper blue and kasparov did not defend well.
>>>
>>>It is not a well known trap.
>>>If you try the position after Nxe6 in comp-comp games you may discover that
>>>black is winning.
>>>
>>>kasparov did some mistakes in this game when fxe6 was probably the first of them
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>You may be right, but there is no question that Kasparov played far below his
>>ability in this match.  Call it "nerves", "choking", "being psyched out", or
>>whatever; the result is the same.  I have often wondered if a player like
>>Karpov, who by nature is a quiet, positional player, would have fared better
>>against Deep Blue.
>>
>>Victor
>
>He could probably play better the last game but could not play better against
>deeper blue in the all macth.
>
>Karpov had problem against Deep thought and could win it only because of the
>fact that deeper blue blundered in a drawn rook endgame.
>
>Karpov is not known to be a strong player against computers based on the
>history.
>
>I do not think that positional players can do better results against computers.
>It may be the opposite.

What about Yasser Sierewan? (excuse me if I spelled his name wrongly). He's a
positional player, and he seems to have a good track record against computers.

-g

>Players who are good in tactics can avoid tactical traps against computers and
>win because of their better positional knowledge relative to the computer.
>
>Uri



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