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Subject: Re: The privilege of becoming a beta-tester

Author: Chessfun

Date: 12:04:10 09/05/00

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On September 05, 2000 at 14:48:53, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 05, 2000 at 14:19:45, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On September 05, 2000 at 13:59:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On September 05, 2000 at 13:52:15, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 05, 2000 at 12:30:51, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I want to say that I know that programmers do not earn much from their program
>>>>>so I do not think that beta testers should earn a lot of money from their job
>>>>>but I think that it is fair to get something from it(even if it is only 0.1$ per
>>>>>hour of testing).
>>>>
>>>>That is complete rubbish IMHO. I would _never_ ask for money when testing a
>>>>program, whether it be commercial or not. After all, you receive a valuable
>>>>piece of software in return for your opinions and thoughts. I think that is a
>>>>fair trade. But it isn't an issue. There are plenty of people more than willing
>>>>to test a program free of charge, because they have a genuine interest in aiding
>>>>computer chess software development.
>>>
>>>It does not prove that paying the beta testers is a bad idea because it is
>>>possible that programmers can get more information by paying the beta testers.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>
>>I must agree with Mogens totally. What you are in fact saying is paying
>>them $0.10 hr would get you better beta testers, as I read that elsewhere.
>>
>>To me that thought is laughable. You test programs be they commercial or
>>otherwise because you enjoy it, not because you may get $0.10 hour. For that
>>get the advantage.
>
>I agree that you test programs because you enjoy but you can do it with
>commercial programs without telling the programmers about games and ideas how to
>improve their program.


So you are in effect saying that for this $0.10 hour that would encourage
beta testers to report their findings more as opposed to finding problems or
having ideas and reporting them....I can't in all honesty see that.
People are basically honest in nature and the beta testers chosen/selected
based on the qualifications they have. There is no reason IMO that any beta
tester testing for company _X_ would not suggest ideas and or improvements
on this free piece of software that he/she wanted to test.


>I guess that some programmers who developed their chess programs because they
>enjoyed it did not earn more than 0.1$ per hour so you can also ask why they
>sell their program and do not make it free.


Ask, what right do I have to ask, when I have offered my services.
My services are offered to both non as well as commercial programmers
therefore what difference does it make to me if a non-commercial
becomes a commercial. The programmer is the one who is putting his/her
time, blood and tears into it. If he/she can make the jump to becoming
commercial I wish them all the best luck in the world.

Thanks.
Sarah.




>Uri



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