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Subject: Re: Why the sudden urge to proclaim programs as GMs?

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 06:31:19 06/26/01

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On June 26, 2001 at 09:20:46, Chris Carson wrote:

>On June 26, 2001 at 09:06:42, Andrew Williams wrote:
>
>>Over the last month, there have been a number of such huge arguments.
>>I've always thought that it's a bit strange to get hung up on this
>>question. Five years ago, it was clear that the best micro programs
>>were not at GM strength. And presumably if you wait five years, PC
>>programs will have proven beyond any doubt that they are at GM strength.
>>Surely the time we happen to be living in is the best and most enjoyable,
>>because we're perhaps seeing a moment of transition between these positions.
>>Why then the need to convince anybody of anything when you can just sit
>>there and be proved right by waiting? Is there some particular benefit to
>>being able to say that PC programs are GMs *now*?
>>
>>Andrew
>
>I do not care if they are or they are not GM's.  I do care what ELO strength
>they are.
>
>Why not determine what the strength is now?  I made a statement 2 years ago
>about the strength on 500Mhz machines and was challenged to provide more than
>one game to prove my point.  I did that.
>

I think that the list you drew up is a very useful contribution.
It is *far* more convincing than your arguments here.

>Why is it so important to wait 5 years?
>

That's not the point I was making. I just mean that there won't be much
of an argument in five years. Over time, PCs will do better and better
until we get to a point where it's not worth arguing about. So why draw
a line here and argue about it now?


>If it is not important to you.  Great, don't read the posts, I ignore a lot of
>stuff on this board that is not important to me.  :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson

It's not like I'm not interested in the debate. It's just the level of vitriol
that I find strange. I feel like this is a debate we should all be enjoying
rather than trying to score points off each other.


Andrew




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