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Subject: Re: Can anyone here beat the "best" prog in 40/120

Author: Christopher R. Dorr

Date: 07:04:32 11/08/01

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1. Of *course* a GM would play anti-comp. Only his 'anti-comp' stuff might be
different from *your* anti-comp stuff. You think that Kasparov wouldn't play
'anti-Anand' stuff that is tailored to Anand? Of course he would. Just as he
would play 'Anti-Fritz' stuff when playing Fritz.

2. Sure there is a point. if I can make the computer play like a 2000, then the
computer is *not* a GM. Do you think there is *any* way I could make Kramnik
look like a 2000? If the point is to evaluate the computer *as an opponent*,
then the weaknesses of that opponent are fair game.

3. Maybe, but then the result is meaningless. Just as meaningless as asking 'Is
anyone here capable of playing a King's Gambit and sacrificing a full piece to
mate toe computer's black king on h8?' and then trying to extrapolate that
information to something else.

The simple issue is 'Can anybody here beat the 'best' program on a 1 GHz box at
40/2?' Any other limitations artifically weaken the human, and make the test
meaningless.

Chris



On November 08, 2001 at 07:54:59, Jonas Cohonas wrote:

>On November 08, 2001 at 06:59:22, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2001 at 06:35:18, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>Can anyone here beat the "best" prog in 40/120 without using anti comp
>>>strtegies? on atleast an Athlon 1000?
>>>
>>>I have seen a lot of post where people draw the comps when trying to do nothing
>>>but that, but i am yet to see someone not using anti comp strategies beat them
>>>in a 40/120 on fast hardware..... anyone up for the challenge?
>>
>>What's the point of not playing anticomputer strategies?
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>The point being: 1. A GM of conciderable strength would not play anti comp.
>2.If a program has a fault which can be taken advantage of by using anti comp
>strategies making it look like a 2000 player there is no point in playing it,
>just like using the same line to beat the comp to determine it's strength.
>3. Is anyone here capable of beating the comp under these conditions??
>
>Regards
>Jonas



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