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Subject: Re: Ruffian is here - Make your move Bob Hyatt!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:36:33 09/23/02

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On September 23, 2002 at 14:43:23, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On September 23, 2002 at 14:19:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>Ruffian could be any of the following, in decreasing order of probability:
>>
>>1.  A copy of a freeware engine with some changes or additions.
>
>From posted results, no freeware engine is close to the strength of Ruffian. You
>mentioned yourself, that it is "easy" to reach some 2300 Elo level, but it is
>very hard, to improve Crafty. Why should anybody, that can improve any freeware
>engine that much, not be able, to write it from scratch anyway? If I look at the
>position Will posted, (not only) the search depth really is impressive. It seems
>to indicate, that Ruffian uses some clever pruning.\


I agree that ruffian looks stronger.  However, that _is_ an explanation of
"how could someone develop such a strong engine very quickly?"  The answer is
to take a known engine that is strong and incorporate a new idea (such as
forward pruning) to make it even stronger.

Writing a strong, robust engine is a time-burner.  Starting with one and
trying something new (ie a new take on singular extensions, or selective
forward pruning, or whatever) would be a _much_ faster "path to glory".




>
>>2.  A copy of a commercial engine, aided by a hex editor to change strings
>>    to disguise what has happened.
>
>The only commercial engine, that I am aware of, that supports UCI and WB is
>Gandalf. AFAIK it is not available for Unix systems. Ruffian, when logged into
>ICC shows an interface line with xboard. Unix versions are expected soon.
>
>>5.  A completely new program, developed by a completely new author, sight-
>>    unseen by anybody until very recently.
>
>I think, point 5 is by far the most probable thing.
>
>Regards,
>Dieter


We just have to agree to disagree.  I believe it is the _least_ probable
explanation.  Possible, but improbable, IMHO.



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