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Subject: Problem with TT

Author: Grzegorz Sidorowicz

Date: 06:02:03 07/11/03


[d]8/k7/3p4/p2P1p2/P2P1P2/8/8/K7 w - -

In this legendary position my program can't find solution.
After long investigation (2 years) I must ask you ;-)
What is wrong?
I cant't find any reason?
Random numbers are good, after every move new hashcode is OK
What is wrong?! Pleas help me!!!!
Below is output from my program:

depth time    nodes       score   variation
-------------------------------------------
1     0       2           130     a1a2
2     0       18          130     a1a2 a7a6
3     0       48          105     a1a2 a7b6 a2a1
3     0       92          109     a1b2 a7b6 b2a1
4     0       219         113     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6a6
5     0       428         113     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6c7 c3b3
6     0       889         114     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6c7 c3c4 c7b7
7     0       1874        114     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6c7 c3c4 c7b6 c4b3
8     0       4646        113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7
9     0       6556        113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4
10    0       10236       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c2 c7b6 c2c3
11    0       14980       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c2 c7b7 c2c3
b7c7 c3d3
12    0       21712       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c2 c7b7 c2c3
b7c7 c3d3 c7b7
13    0       33043       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
14    0       43711       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
15    0       61366       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
16    0       96724       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
17    0       136639      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b6 c3c4 b6a6 c4d3 a6b6 d3c3
18    0       191476      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
19    0       271723      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
20    1       421241      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
21    2       630357      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
22    7       2460204     113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
23    12      3758453     113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7
24    21      5496891     113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3d3 b7c7 d3c4 c7b6 c4b3
b6c7 b3c3 c7b7

I think maybe interesting is fact when I add to my program
formula (from Crafty):
if (bestvalue!=original_alpha)
{
   ....Write to TT
}
my program in this position is much faster, but still can't find solution.
Below is output from version with this code:
depth time    nodes       score   variation
-------------------------------------------
1     0       2           130     a1a2
2     0       18          130     a1a2 a7a6
3     0       48          105     a1a2 a7b6 a2a1
3     0       92          109     a1b2 a7b6 b2a1
4     0       219         113     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6a6
5     0       428         113     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6c7 c3b3
6     0       883         114     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6c7 c3c4 c7b7
7     0       1662        114     a1b2 a7b6 b2c3 b6c7 c3c4 c7b6 c4b3
8     0       4007        113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7
9     0       5855        113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c2
10    0       9159        113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b6
11    0       11665       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
12    0       15879       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
13    0       21400       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
14    0       28444       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
15    0       43417       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
16    0       53242       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
17    0       69886       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
18    0       88844       113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
19    0       110116      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
20    0       143105      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
21    0       170359      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
22    0       211740      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
23    1       261604      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
24    1       515224      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7
25    2       804015      113     a1b2 a7b8 b2c3 b8b7 c3c4 b7b6 c4d3 b6c7 d3c3
c7b7

Best Regards
Grzegorz Sidorowicz



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