Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 11:53:35 10/17/03
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On October 17, 2003 at 12:58:17, Mike Byrne wrote: >On October 17, 2003 at 11:47:58, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On October 17, 2003 at 09:55:19, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On October 17, 2003 at 08:54:58, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>> >>>>On October 17, 2003 at 06:42:23, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 17, 2003 at 05:34:01, Drexel,Michael wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 16, 2003 at 22:45:51, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On October 16, 2003 at 17:31:58, Joseph Merolle wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>If so what can I exspect its rating to be in a 40 in 2. Any help would be >>>>>>>>greatly apriciated. Chessbase is not really to clear what it can play on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Regards Joseph >>>>>>> >>>>>>>PF2 with patch works great on Axim - as does Pocket Grandmaster and Chess >>>>>>>Genius. PF1 (the first edition) will NOT work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I played 5 games at Game 30/ PF2 vs Chess Genius 3 (Circa 1993/1994) on a Dell >>>>>>>P4 1.7 Ghz Xeon - it stands at 2-1-2 in favor of PF2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>SSDF: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2309 26 -25 785 61% 2229 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>My machine is maybe 12-16x or even faster of P90. 16x=2^4. Assume 50 points >>>>>>>(low) for doubling or 4x50=200. My estimate is that the latest Axim running >>>>>>>PF2, PGM or PCG is around 2500 SSDF. I also do NOT believe in adding 200 points >>>>>>>to SSDF to get to USCF. Who knows what the comnversion factor would be - , it >>>>>>>may even be close to equal - but it's not add 200 to get USCF. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sorry Mike, >>>>>>my guesstimate is that PF2 and Ruffian are still stronger than PCG 1.5 at >>>>>>time controls >= 15 min for the game. >>>>>>The chess engine only has been optimized for the Xscale. >>>>>> >>>>>>Michael >>>>> >>>>>I should qualify my comments - on my machine (Dell Axim) with WM 2003 and ROM 05 >>>> >>>> >- they are close ..too close for me to call. >>>> >>>>You explicit mentioned SSDF so we talk about tournament time control. >>>> >>>>Shredder 7 UCI 450 Mhz has 2717 SSDF ElO >>>>Chess Genius 6.5 450 MHz has 2476 SSDF ELO >>>> >>>>Shredder 7 had TBs in the search and and and ..., so maybe the difference is >>>>only 200 points. >>>> >>>>To be close now on a Dell Axim would mean SMK did a lousy porting job with >>>>PF2(updated). >>>>Seems unlikely to me. >>>> >>>>Michael >>> >>>you are assuming the engine Genius 6.5 is the same as CG 1.5 --- I do not think >>>it is based on problems I have given to both. >> >>I didn't assume that. Even if Lang had a major rewrite of his program it seems >>impossible that he has closed the gap. >>The ability to solve many testpositions fast is fine but not most important. >> >>Btw, I have an Axim with ROM A01 German and PF2 seems to work fine there. >>@ 400MHz 16MB I get typically 20000-25000 nps in the early middlegame and >>21000 nps after 30 sec in the start position. > >That's my point - with ROM A05 and Wm 2003, 1.5 greatly increases nps over 1.4 >on PPC 2002 and ROM A01 I have a new Dell Axim with ROM A01 German and Wm 2003, not Pocket PC 2002. The German ROMs seem to have different names than the English ROMs. I have a ROM version: A01 (07190300GE) What is your number A05 (...) ? There exists also an older ROM version A01 Germany (04100300GE) which can be compared with the old A01 English (04100300EN). http://www.pcsystemservice.de/treiber_downloads.php -- do you have Cg 1.5 ? - it has nps option runs some >tests and we can compare. Seeing is believeing. If you have CG, Richard has a >special version of 1.4 that has nps in hex format . email him for the test copy. No, I have only an old Genius 6. My numbers are from PocketFritz 2 Analysis mode. Michael > > >> >>Michael >> >> >>Michael
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