Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:07:08 04/30/04
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On April 30, 2004 at 06:57:50, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 23:05:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 18:17:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2004 at 14:36:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 29, 2004 at 13:22:15, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 29, 2004 at 11:28:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest. So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>amazing! there is one buyer :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have my credit card ready? I can even send a postal order, or cheque! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>wow!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>not sure why?! but to each his own. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain >>>>>>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>>>>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>>>>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >>>>>> >>>>>>That is a red flag. If Shredder is the _only_ engine that beats you in your >>>>>>tests, I'd personally be very concerned that my testing is badly flawed. IE if >>>>>>you can consistently beat fritz, you are doing something nobody else (except >>>>>>perhaps shredder) is doing... >>>>> >>>>>Saying that shredder is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% >>>>>against Falcon does not means that Falcon can consistently beat Fritz and it may >>>>>get exactly 50% against Fritz. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>> >>>>50% or 51% really doesn't matter. Either result seems far beyond any reality I >>>>can imagine. >>> >>>I tested Falcon at home here. At slow hardware with pretty quick time controls >>>using a good book it is real strong. >>> >>>Fritz is not forward pruning AFAIK and Falcon is forward pruning more than Ed >>>used to do. So when having equal number of cycles at a machine, Falcon *will* >>>have a good chance. >>> >>>Knowing not many have falcon i volunteer to keep a crafty-falcon match if you >>>keep on saying he's a liar. I would be using the same conditions. So fritz8.ctg >>>for falcon, that's all. Crafty version of your chosing, optimized as you want it >>>to be for single cpu usage (i have net2003 here if that's enough for you) and i >>>will load it as winboard/uci engine under fritz with your own book learning and >>>book.bin and a pretty quick level, as my dual k7 has other duties too. >> >>Just show up on ICC and play all you want. You really think I'd consider you an >>objective tester? > >This shows your true personality. > >>If his program is better than mine, fine. But I _really_ >>doubt it is better than Rebel, Tiger, Fritz, Junior, The King, etc... >> >>My opinion, of course. But then, every time you make a wild statement I have >>made the _same_ comment about showing up on ICC. It never happens even though >>Crafty is there all the time. >> >>> >>>Of course i'll play many games to make it statistical significant in order to >>>try to proof that crafty is not having a chance against a modern engine like >>>Falcon. I have a dual K7 upstairs ready for such a match. >>> >>>Let me know whether you are interested in taking this proposal. >> >>Sure. Pop on over to ICC. Your "basement matches" prove zilch. > >the last people need preparing for world champs is public matches. By the same logic the last thing that David Omid needs for preparing to the world championship is to give you Falcon. I doubt if you have it and I see no reason for David Omid to give it to you. If he needs beta testers there are other people in this forum that will be happy to test Falcon. > >I'm not having a dual opteron for Falcon of course here, neither does it run >parallel. It's clear you are not interested in equal hardware matches. Shame on >you! If Falcon cannot use parallel hardware then it is not bob's fault. Uri
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