Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 03:57:50 04/30/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 23:05:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 18:17:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 14:36:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2004 at 13:22:15, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On April 29, 2004 at 11:28:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest. So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>amazing! there is one buyer :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have my credit card ready? I can even send a postal order, or cheque! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>wow!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>not sure why?! but to each his own. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain >>>>>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it? >>>>>> >>>>>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>>>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>>>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >>>>> >>>>>That is a red flag. If Shredder is the _only_ engine that beats you in your >>>>>tests, I'd personally be very concerned that my testing is badly flawed. IE if >>>>>you can consistently beat fritz, you are doing something nobody else (except >>>>>perhaps shredder) is doing... >>>> >>>>Saying that shredder is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% >>>>against Falcon does not means that Falcon can consistently beat Fritz and it may >>>>get exactly 50% against Fritz. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>>50% or 51% really doesn't matter. Either result seems far beyond any reality I >>>can imagine. >> >>I tested Falcon at home here. At slow hardware with pretty quick time controls >>using a good book it is real strong. >> >>Fritz is not forward pruning AFAIK and Falcon is forward pruning more than Ed >>used to do. So when having equal number of cycles at a machine, Falcon *will* >>have a good chance. >> >>Knowing not many have falcon i volunteer to keep a crafty-falcon match if you >>keep on saying he's a liar. I would be using the same conditions. So fritz8.ctg >>for falcon, that's all. Crafty version of your chosing, optimized as you want it >>to be for single cpu usage (i have net2003 here if that's enough for you) and i >>will load it as winboard/uci engine under fritz with your own book learning and >>book.bin and a pretty quick level, as my dual k7 has other duties too. > >Just show up on ICC and play all you want. You really think I'd consider you an >objective tester? This shows your true personality. >If his program is better than mine, fine. But I _really_ >doubt it is better than Rebel, Tiger, Fritz, Junior, The King, etc... > >My opinion, of course. But then, every time you make a wild statement I have >made the _same_ comment about showing up on ICC. It never happens even though >Crafty is there all the time. > >> >>Of course i'll play many games to make it statistical significant in order to >>try to proof that crafty is not having a chance against a modern engine like >>Falcon. I have a dual K7 upstairs ready for such a match. >> >>Let me know whether you are interested in taking this proposal. > >Sure. Pop on over to ICC. Your "basement matches" prove zilch. the last people need preparing for world champs is public matches. I'm not having a dual opteron for Falcon of course here, neither does it run parallel. It's clear you are not interested in equal hardware matches. Shame on you! In a few weeks some tester might show up with diep at a dual opteron at ICC. But i'm sure everyone knows what will happen in *those* games. > >> >>Best regards, >>Vincent
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