Author: Graham Laight
Date: 10:20:10 10/13/04
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On October 13, 2004 at 11:44:32, Peter Skinner wrote: >On October 13, 2004 at 10:58:41, Graham Laight wrote: > >>So - the human players at Bilbao (Ruslan Ponomariov, Véselin Topálov and Sergey >>Karjakin) were simply not sufficiently well motivated, then? >> >>-g > >Frankly looking at the way the humans played, there was certainly room for vast >improvement. They played the computers as if they were playing humans. That is >the wrong thing to do. > >If you look at most games, they were of high "tactic" play. This is _exactly_ >the strength of the computers. In the one game where the human played >positionally, he made the computer look like a complete patzer. It was >unfortunate that it was Junior, but it could have _easily_ been any other >program there. > >Put Anand in there instead of Topalov, and the results would have been much >different. The humans that played are not experienced computer players. I don't >even think one of them has attended an AEGEON event (I could be wrong about >this). > >In the Karjakin - Junior game, Karjakin played _excellent_ anti-computer chess. Looking at the game at http://www.utzingerk.com/bilbao/bilbao.htm , with just my lowly 1600 skill level, I see some problems with Karjakin's positioning. By move 20, his king is fully exposed (with the queens still on the board!), and DJ has a passed pawn. By move 25, there are tactical issues aplenty! I feel that Karjakin was lucky to escape with the win from this game. I have to admit that, as the game progresses, DJ invents a new dance called "the dark-square bishop shuffle" which, whether good chess or not, is not pleasing to the eye. Moving a piece aimlessly backwards and forwards is usually an indicator that a computer is in a position it does not understand well. -g >On ICC there are a few GM's that in longer games, just make the machines look >stupid. It is almost insane how easily they win. There is also an IM on ICC >named IgorIvanov. He plays my computer all the time (Shredder 8), and even in a >blitz game (5 3), he can win _easily_. > >Peter
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