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Subject: Re: Toga II 0.94

Author: Thomas Gaksch

Date: 14:03:07 07/22/05

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On July 22, 2005 at 15:29:33, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On July 22, 2005 at 10:40:14, Thomas Gaksch wrote:
>
>>On July 22, 2005 at 04:33:45, Fabien Letouzey wrote:
>>
>>>On July 21, 2005 at 19:01:24, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 21, 2005 at 18:33:49, Juan Pablo Naar C. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>All of you who have Toga II 0.94, is it a private beta version? Because from
>>>>>Alex Schmidt's website I only see version 0.93.
>>>>
>>>>Wasn't it supposed to be released?
>>>
>>>Yes, and that was LONG LONG ago ...
>>>
>>>So let's be clear for everyone, ANY release that is not GPL is illegal.
>>>Beta/testing or whatever is irrelevant!
>>>
>>>Please all testers that include illegal chess programs in their tournament(s)
>>>refuse to do it further, in order to force authors to comply to licences.
>>>
>>>Thanks for listening,
>>>
>>>Fabien.
>>
>>Hi Fabien,
>>why are you so agressiv? The Version 0.94 Beta was send to all people who wanted
>>to test the version. Of course the source code and the GPL licence was also sent
>>to this people. I havent released this version because it didn´t play much
>>stronger than the 0.93 version. in my opinion it doesn´t make sense to
>>distribute a version which is not stronger than the older version.
>>If it is not allowed to send beta packages incl. source code and GPL-licences to
>>some testers than i am not able to improve the program.
>>Please tell me what i have done wrong??? why should i distribute a version which
>>is not stronger than the old version?
>>my mistake was that i thought that there will be soon a new stronger version
>>which i can distribute. but that wasn´t the case!
>>As far as i know ther was nothing illegal from my side. if so please tell it to
>>me what was wrong.
>>regards
>>thomas
>
>
>Let me tell you what I think has been wrong.  You've run Toga on playchess.com
>for some time stating publicly in the info that that was your "own written
>engine" (quote) without ever mentioning Fabien and his program Fruit that you've
>built upon.  I asked you publicly on the server to please add the reference to
>Fruit but nothing happened.  You kept on running Toga as your own engine.  That
>was wrong.
>
>To make matters perfectly clear I made sure that a German guy write a message to
>you as I wasn't sure that you understood English.  But I see no change yet.
>
>That's what's wrong, among other things.  And now you have the guts to call
>Fabien aggressive...
>
>Djordje

that´s a long time ago. and of course you are right that this was absolutely
wrong from me. i apologized me for that many times.
but at the moment we are discussing what is the best and correct way to send
beta versions to tester.
i am not able to please everybody. and it seems that you can´t forgive.
after my wrong behaviour i tried to do everything correct. but the problem is,
that it is only a hobby for me and some people take that hobby to seriously.
for those people everything i do is wrong. fabien is NOT one of this people but
there are a lot others.
but don´t panic. if there are much more people like you i will stop working on
toga based on fruit because a hobby should make fun and i have no fun if i
always read threads like this.
at the moment there is a little bit action in the computer chess scene. and i
think toga was one of the actors which made this hobby not so boring.

thomas



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