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Subject: Re: Nominees.... The Ball Continues to Roll..

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 08:21:36 06/08/99

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On June 08, 1999 at 09:51:09, Steven Schwartz wrote:

>Nominees... How about this one?
>If a member's message is deleted and the member chooses to
>defend his position on the CCC Message Board, should he be
>permitted to? And if so, to what extent?
>- Steve (ICD/Your Move)

I think it is fine to defend a position here.

However, you first have to have something to defend.

Just because a post is deleted does not mean that you have something to defend.

The basic idea of moderation for an inappropriate post is to delete it and send
an Email explaining the basic reasons to the appropriate party(ies). If someone
gets a message deleted and thinks that it is unfair, the FIRST thing they should
do is Email Steve and the moderators asking for more detail and/or explaining
why they thought deletion was appropriate. If a mistake was made, it can then be
corrected WITHOUT a major thread on it.

However, if no mistake was made, then the moderators can respond back that they
feel no mistake was made, etc.

At this point, if the member still feels that his message was deleted
inappropriately, then he can post a message to the board. However, the problem
that usually occurs here is that a member will say "Moderator x deleted my post
unfairly and then sent me this mean Email about it ...". I understand if a
member is frustrated, but starting off a message in this vein is also
inappropriate. The LAST thing you want to do as a member is post controversial
messages concerning the deletion of a post. The moderators try to be fair, but
when people rant and rave aggressively and point fingers at the moderators, they
are setting themselves up for another deletion.

Now, some troublemakers WANT to have a second and third post deleted JUST in
order to be able to proclaim how unfairly the moderators are being. This is just
being a nuisance and such a person should be given a warning to shape up or they
will be shipped out. I think that everyone has a right to express their opinion,
however, they do not always have a right to express their opinion in whatever
manner they wish.

Examples of poor expression are:

"My post got deleted, so I quit CCC.". Come on, grow up. If you wish to not post
here due to a conflict, then do not post here. Do not post that you will no
longer be posting here. This is an intentional troll.

"My post got deleted and I cannot believe the Email I got from the moderator
over it.". The contents of an Email between a moderator and a member should NOT
usually be up for discussion. If the moderator goes WAY overboard with an Email,
forward a copy of it to Steve. He can decide impartially whether he should talk
to the moderator over it. Just because a member thinks that an Email is
overboard does not mean that any other reasonable person will think that and we
do not need a controversial thread here on it.

"My post got deleted and it had nothing wrong with it. The previous poster was
the culprit.". Sometimes threads get deleted. Just because a given message is
non-contentious does not mean that the entire thread isn't way out in left
field. If an entire thread or an entire branch of a thread gets deleted, DO NOT
make a big deal over it. Chances are that you were responding to the
inappropriateness of the thread anyway, so let it go.

I have no problem with people disagreeing with a deletion on the message board,
but pick your fights wisely. If you are cursing up a blue streak in the message,
DO NOT post a message on how unfairly you were treated just because you were
responding to someone else who mildly cursed at you.

The more ALL of us try to resolve these conflicts off of the message board, the
more ALL of us can read more posts on computer chess related topics.

KarinsDad :)



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