Author: Melvin S. Schwartz
Date: 20:47:07 06/15/99
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On June 15, 1999 at 21:48:29, Terry Presgrove wrote: >On June 15, 1999 at 17:49:19, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: > >> >>On June 15, 1999 at 14:07:11, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On June 15, 1999 at 13:29:13, Melvin S. Schwartz wrote: >>>>On June 15, 1999 at 09:18:45, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>>>On June 15, 1999 at 08:49:05, walter irvin wrote: >>>>>>On June 15, 1999 at 07:47:02, Lin Harper wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> At this time on ICC I see Fritz struggling on a piece down >>>>>>> to Shredder. Ferret wins it's first two games. >>>>>> >>>>>>maybe fritz is not really as good as most people seem to think ?????????????? >>>>> >>>>>Or perhaps Shredder is better. Its low seeding was completely unrealistic. >>>> >>>>Hello Bruce, >>>> >>>>Perhaps you can enlighten me here. How does this WCCC event relate to reality? >>>>Are the programs being pitted against each other competing on an equal platform? >>>>Are they the same programs we can buy at ICD? If Shredder or Junior or Hiarcs >>>>win, can I purchase the SAME program from ICD? >>>Their machines are probably better than yours. >>>The software has been tuned up considerably in all cases. >>>Yet Shredder has done well at previous events. It's low seeding is a mystery if >>>we extrapolate from earlier data. >> >>Perhaps I'll have to add Shredder to my collection - this will make Steve at ICD >>happy.:) >>I can't help but feel it would be so much more relevant if the programs tested >>were the actual commercial programs you could buy. Also, I believe it would be >>more relevant if they were all playing on the same type of hardware. This may >>not be an event for consumers, but then what is the real purpose - and for what >>important reason? >> >>Mel > > Obviously you don't get it.....for the same reason some people climb mountains > others sky dive..... they ( the programmers ) enjoy this kind of event, its for > them and others who like this format. I don't particularly like the idea of >jumping out of a plane but I don't knock those that do. Just because I don't get >it doesn't mean that its not significant to those that participate in sky diving >or a Computer chess tournament for that matter. I disagree. They're running programs on different hardware and that doesn't make for intelligent evaluations of program vs. program. Furthermore, I didn't say they shouldn't do it, but rather what is to be accomplished by testing program against program on various types of hardware that is not of equal stature. They can do it - but is it truly meaningful??? Mel >TP
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