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Subject: Re: Deep Blue Junior at WCCC?

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 17:35:39 06/18/99

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On June 18, 1999 at 20:16:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On June 18, 1999 at 18:31:05, Roger D Davis wrote:
>
>>I found this message on the Rebel Site where the events of round six were
>>reported:
>>
>>Ed and I took the opportunity to play some 10 minute blitz games against Deep
>>Blue Junior. Amazingly Rebel crushed the IBM supermonster with 3-0! Deep Blue
>>Junior had no chance in these games, so one can have his doubts about the
>>playing strength of this machine.
>>
>>I haven't seen anyone else mention Deep Blue Junior.
>>
>>Roger
>
>
>Ed didn't tell "the rest of the story" so I will...
>
>I ask Hsu about this 'machine' a few weeks back, and here is what he told me
>about it:
>
>Some internal IBM folks asked him to develop a 'demo' facility to show off DB.
>He elected to do a web-based interface, which is "stateless" if you know what
>this is all about.  In essence, this machine won't play a "game" at all, it
>simply takes a position, searches it for 1 second (which includes mostly the
>time needed to download the chess processors with the state information) and
>then it produces a move.  No repetition testing at all, no game history, no
>nothing except for a near-instant search.  However, it can take quite a while
>to make a move because _many_ web browsers get pointed at this thing by the
>IBM guys doing demos...
>
>Hsu estimated that it might play at 2200 or so.  Which was all that was needed
>for the demonstrations it is used for.  It is _not_ "deep blue junior" by any
>measure you would care to name.
>
>And putting such nonsense on Ed's web page is _highly_ misleading.
>
>To say the least.
>
>Bob

It's a bit hard to fault people who might not be aware of the complete details
of the setup.

Dave



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