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Subject: Re: Deep Blue Junior at WCCC?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:16:44 06/18/99

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On June 18, 1999 at 18:31:05, Roger D Davis wrote:

>I found this message on the Rebel Site where the events of round six were
>reported:
>
>Ed and I took the opportunity to play some 10 minute blitz games against Deep
>Blue Junior. Amazingly Rebel crushed the IBM supermonster with 3-0! Deep Blue
>Junior had no chance in these games, so one can have his doubts about the
>playing strength of this machine.
>
>I haven't seen anyone else mention Deep Blue Junior.
>
>Roger


Ed didn't tell "the rest of the story" so I will...

I ask Hsu about this 'machine' a few weeks back, and here is what he told me
about it:

Some internal IBM folks asked him to develop a 'demo' facility to show off DB.
He elected to do a web-based interface, which is "stateless" if you know what
this is all about.  In essence, this machine won't play a "game" at all, it
simply takes a position, searches it for 1 second (which includes mostly the
time needed to download the chess processors with the state information) and
then it produces a move.  No repetition testing at all, no game history, no
nothing except for a near-instant search.  However, it can take quite a while
to make a move because _many_ web browsers get pointed at this thing by the
IBM guys doing demos...

Hsu estimated that it might play at 2200 or so.  Which was all that was needed
for the demonstrations it is used for.  It is _not_ "deep blue junior" by any
measure you would care to name.

And putting such nonsense on Ed's web page is _highly_ misleading.

To say the least.

Bob



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