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Subject: Re: What is the difference between a Celeron and a PIII, chesswise?

Author: Derek Bays

Date: 14:53:45 07/01/99

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On July 01, 1999 at 14:53:11, O. Veli wrote:

>  I apologize if this has been mentioned before but I would like to learn if
>there is a difference between these processors in chess strength. I heard that
>there was not a whole lot difference between 486DX and SX some years back. Is
>the situation same this time? Would a top level program play as strong on a
>Celeron 466 as on a PII 450? How about chips by companies other than Intel?
>There is information on this on Rebel site. Is that applicable to other chess
>programs as well? Thanks.


Hello there, I am responding to your posting because I am currently in the
process of upgrading my 486 dx4-100 to a Celeron based system with a 366MHZ
CPU which I will overclock to around 400MHZ. I've been browsing the Intel
site www.intel.com and from what I can see there isn't a whole lot of difference
between the Celeron processors and the PII's in the number crunching department
ie) raw data used in spreadsheet applications, as well as the evaluations
generated from a chess engine. Note that this is not the case when we are
talking about 3D graphics capability. The PII & PIII's seem to excel in the
3D graphics arena, and this seems to be what makes them so popular. However
since I prefer to run my serious chess engines in DOS to eliminate Windows
overhead and maximize my CPU's performance, I don't really think there would be
much of a difference between say a Celeron466A and the PII400 or even 450. Most
professional chess programs don't use 3D graphics capability, and even if they
do you can disable it to increase playing strength.

As for the new AMD chips, they are nice, and I know Rebel loves them, scoring
higher with them than any other Intel CPU by a few points, but they are a super
socket 7 CPU and would limit the ability to upgrade to a slot CPU later on, so I
decided to go with a Celeron 366A SEPP. They are good for overclocking and allow
me to upgrade to a PII or PIII without having to buy a whole new motherborad.

Lastly, I don't know about you but when I switched from my 486sx25 to a
486dx4100 I sure noticed s difference :) Hope this long winded reply answers
your questions.

-Derek.



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