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Subject: Re: Tell me about Alpha

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 19:35:28 07/06/99

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On July 06, 1999 at 19:35:26, Andrew Slough wrote:

>On July 06, 1999 at 19:01:02, Zachariah Amela wrote:
>
>>One other posters referred me to an Alpha system when I asked about
>>multiprocessor machines.  I also have a friend who swears by the Alpha because
>>he says it's integer crunchy is bar-none.
>>
>>So tell me about the Alpha?
>
>Alphas are high performance RISC processors designed by digital to have as lower
>clock cycle time (higher speed) as possible. Compaq recently showed a normally
>cooled 1000 Mhz Alpha processor whereas I think the fastest normally cooled x86
>processor is K7 at 600Mhz. An Alpha should be quite a bit faster per-cycle than
>an Intel processor too - Alpha 21164 & 21264 are quad out of order issue 64-bit
>processors. Although P2/3 can issue 3 instructions per cycle, the registers are
>only dual ported, which in practice limits it to two. P2/K6/K7 are 32 bit
>processors, which make them slightly worse for programs that use bitboards. They
>also 32 64-bit general purpose registers compared to x86's paltry 4 32-bit.
>
>>I understand it will run Unix and NT.  But what
>>makes it better?
>>What is the cost?
>
>I would think you would be talking about $2000-$3000 minimum.
>
>>How much horsepower are we talking?
>
>SpecInt95
>Digital Alphaserver 6/575 (575Mhz)     -     30.3
>Intel Pentium III/500 (500Mhz)         -     20.6

I think that this particular machine is probably fantastically expensive.  When
I checked a couple of years ago I couldn't find any Alpha machine made by
Digital that was less than $10,000.  Have their prices come down?

It used to be possible to get a nice Alpha clone for a sane price, but I don't
know of anyone selling the new 21264 in a clone.  If someone has a 21264 in a
clone it could be worth checking out.

bruce



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