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Subject: Re: Rebel Shows GM strength once AGAIN(draws Baburin)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:38:33 12/04/99

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On December 04, 1999 at 17:32:11, walter irvin wrote:

> i think the debate on if programs are GM or not are about to end .all its going
>to take is a couple more speed ups in mhz and its over .man is trying to hold on
>but in the end man will be ground up like hamburger meat . rebel has been doing
>well with this GM challenge . myself im surprised the GM's dont do better .they
>know who they are playing , no excuse not to be prepared .
>
>in 5 years computers are just going to be too fast , even if programers stop now
>and make no more improvements .i mean the day hiarcs gets 6,000,000 nps GM's are
>going to start to need odds of knight or so .


GMs are still refusing to acknowledge how strong computers are, and as a result,
they are playing right into the computer's strength.  IE today's game was _not_
the way to play against a computer.  Both kings wide open, black really should
have won because of it.

Once they 'get the message' and start studying (as some have) it will get
harder for the computers once again.  There are already some GMs that
understand this.  More will join the parade once they realize that if they
try their tactical nonsense, they are putting their neck on a chopping block.

I'm still sticking with my 2450 estimate (FIDE).  Although I would definitely
say that if a GM is going to play wild games, a computer is probably 2550 or
so.  And if he plays away from the computer's strength, then 2450 is in the
ballpark although it may be a bit high...

But GM players have _big_ egos.  And they want to play the way they always
play.  And until they conquer that urge and start to understand what 'anti-
computer' is about, they will have plenty of trouble...

Too bad today's game didn't result in a win for Rebel.

Btw, Ed.  Someone said today's game was played by Rebel-Tiger rather than
Rebel.  Correct or incorrect???  I don't remember who, but it was something
mentioned on ICC right after the game ended...


Bob



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