Author: Amir Ban
Date: 15:56:01 12/21/99
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On December 21, 1999 at 17:48:49, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 21, 1999 at 15:38:45, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On December 21, 1999 at 14:54:47, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On December 21, 1999 at 14:18:05, Mike S. wrote: >>> >>>>This game is really horrible. I support what you say. Maybe programmers could >>>>define a condition like "If no advancement (evaluation increase) is made for ten >>>>moves, so accept a draw offer". The problem can also occur when a position is >>>>theoretically won by the side which has a material advantage (which the computer >>>>has and won't ever accept a draw therefore), but the computer can't find a >>>>method to win. >>>> >>>>Btw., has anybody ever got a draw offer from a program? I haven't. I would like >>>>to see this also. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>M.Scheidl >>> >>> >>>If you watch crafty play on ICC you will see it happen all the time. If you >>>play it on your own machine it will also offer draws.... >>> >>>and accept them when it is reasonable to do so. >> >>I assume you are talking about "The Crafty" and not Crafty Clones. My >>experience with Crafty is that it continues to play for a "Swindle" when the >>tablebases tell it the game is a draw. Crafty has other annoying habits like >>resigning at "Mate in 1" when it has been seeing mate for about 15 moves via the >>tablebases. >>Jim Walker > >What is annoying to you is just sound chess. It has been in _plenty_ of >drawn krp vs kr endings where the kr side made a mistake and lost. No reason >to offer a draw until the opponent draws the game. It has been in several >mate-in-N positions where the opponent couldn't mate (one was knn vs kp where >it had the kp). Why resign? Make your opponent win. Remember Kasparov vs Deep >Blue round 2? You are clouding a simple issue. The question is why crafty should refuse to draw when holding a KR against a KRP, or, even more atrociously, KN vs. KNP. Amir
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