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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger - Is It Really 2696 ELO?

Author: John Warfield

Date: 16:43:03 12/22/99

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On December 22, 1999 at 17:11:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 22, 1999 at 14:01:43, Graham Laight wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 1999 at 10:00:07, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>>We firmly believe that our ratings are correct in the sense that if a computer
>>>>were to play a sufficient number of games against Swedish humans, it would end
>>>>up with a rating close to what it has on our list. Unfortunately, as programs
>>>>get better it becomes increasingly difficult to arrange meaningful games against
>>>>human players. Reassuringly, we've noted that our ratings are fairly consistent
>>>>with the results from the yearly Aegon tournament in Holland.
>>>
>>>
>>>Baloney nowadays.  No program would consistently play at near 2700 at





>>>aegon.
>>
>>I respect your point of view as an experienced and practising computer chess
>>person. However, I feel compelled to ask: have you any evidence to support this
>>assertion? If not, why do you think it is so?
>>
>>At the end of the day, good chess is good chess. A machine that can beat more
>>computers is also likely to beat more humans.
>>
>>Graham
>
>I feel that way based on watching them play.


  hmm Strange that a man of Science such as yourself would go on "feeling" and
no facts. Schredder 4 just got finish Drawing Karpov at 40/2, so they could very
well be near 2700, although I doubt it. By the way what is your rating? I would
like to know how much chess knowledge is behind these  "feelings"




 2700 is an incredibly high
>rating, better than all but maybe 10 players.  I don't believe a computer
>other than Deep Blue has a prayer of playing at that level, on any hardware
>forseeable for the next 5 years, assuming the PC platform.
>
>Rebel has almost hit 2500 against GM and IM players.  to get to 2700 would
>require a herculean effort.  IE it would have to win 3 games for every loss
>vs 2500 players, which seems impossible at present...



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