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Subject: Re: DT and DB (prototype) vs Computers

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 06:21:45 01/24/00

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On January 23, 2000 at 22:28:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:

<Big Snip>

>>But, my guess is we will hear some blah, blah, blah, wait for
>>some mythical chip, don't believe the data, watch me pull a
>>rabbit out out of my hat - statements.  :)
>>
>
>Here's a rabbit or three:  Which commercial program has produced a USCF rating
>of 2550+?  Which commercial program has produced a TPR of 2650 over 25
>consecutive games?
>
>When you can point to one, I'll listen carefully.  I am not interested in TPRs
>of 2600 for 5 games, followed by a TPR of 2300 for the next 5, etc.
>
>When you can point to a program that has come close to that, let me know and
>provide games as Monty did in his book.  And remember that this was all on
>1986 hardware.  DB/DB2 didn't have anything to do with those results, although
>they produced some pretty good TPRs against the best player in the world.
>

Date	Player	        FIDE	Program	PS	TPR	25 Games
Feb-97	Ernst	        2450	Rebel 8	0	2325	2546
Mar-97	Corvi	        2306	Rebel 8	0.5	2306	2558	*
Apr-97	Van Geet	2320	Rebel 9	1	2651	2567	*
Apr-97	Loeffler	2410	Rebel 9	1	2651	2562	*
Apr-97	Polgar	        2470	Rebel 9	0.5	2651	2553	*
Apr-97	Timoshchenko	2515	Rebel 9	1	2651	2549
Apr-97	Kosashvili	2560	Rebel 9	0	2651	2544
Apr-97	Kuijf	        2475	Rebel 9	1	2651	2535
Jun-97	Akesson	        2485	Rebel 8	1	2325	2531
Jun-97	Akesson	        2485	Rebel 8	0	2325	2539
Nov-97	Santos	        2190	Rebel 9	1	2683	2543
Nov-97	Pena	        2330	Rebel 9	1	2683	2533
Nov-97	Dominguez	2340	Rebel 9	0.5	2683	2524
Nov-97	Mateo	        2408	Rebel 9	1	2683	2518
Nov-97	Hernandez	2320	Rebel 9	1	2683	2512
Dec-98	Dominguez	2340	Rebel 10 0.5	2533	2508
Dec-98	Pinal	        2330	Rebel 10 1	2533	2511
Dec-98	Alvarado	2180	Rebel 10 1	2533	2513
Dec-98	Fernendez	2180	Rebel 10 1	2533	2515
Dec-98	Mateo	        2415	Rebel 10 1	2533
Dec-98	Montes	        2130	Rebel 10 0.5	2533
Dec-98	Jaquez	        2220	Rebel 10 1	2533
May-99	Rohde	        2585	Reb-Cen	0	2185
Jul-99	Sorin	        2524	Reb-Cen	0.5	2537
Jul-99	Anand	        2795	Reb-Cen	0.5	2605
Jul-99	Anand	        2795	Reb-Cen	0	2605
Aug-99	Rohde	        2585	Reb-Cen	0.5	2537
Sep-99	Hoffman	        2501	Reb-Cen	0	2537
Sep-99	Zapolskis	2399	Reb-Cen	1	2427
Sep-99	Ruzele	        2515	Reb-Cen	0.5	2537
Sep-99	Grabliauskas	2466	Reb-Cen	0.5	2533
Sep-99	Krivonosov	2432	Reb-Cen	0.5	2432
Oct-99	Scherbakov	2541	Reb-Cen	1	2537
Oct-99	Zagorskis	2486	Reb-Cen	1	2537
Oct-99	Krivonosov	2432	Reb-Cen	0.5	2432
Oct-99	Sakalauskas	2450	Reb-Cen	0	2427
Oct-99	Grabliauskas	2466	Reb-Cen	0	2442
Dec-99	Baburin	        2593	Reb-Cen	0.5	2537
Jan-00	Scherbakov	2552	Reb-Cen	0	2537
Jan-00	Russek	        2398	Reb-Cen	1	2591
Jan-00	Russek	        2398	Reb-Cen	0.5	2591
Jan-00	Russek	        2398	Reb-Cen	0.5	2591
Jan-00	Russek	        2398	Reb-Cen	1	2591
Jan-00	Nur	        2300	Reb-Cen	1	2442
			Average		        2534
                        (+20, =15, -9)  44 FIDE rated games!
                        Better than USCF and not G/30 or
                        G/60.

Notes:  DT TPR and 25 game rating was USCF.  Rebel rating
        is based on FIDE rated games.  FIDE=USCF-100.

        * games would be over USCF 2650.  Four times not once.  :)

        Thus Rebel outperformed DT.  I have not included any
        Rebel G/30 or G/60 data.  I will now go back and add
        that data, the TPR and 25 game average will increase.

Also, I include the actual ratings for opponents,
M. Newborn did not, only TPR's.

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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