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Subject: What if this was the 50th move???

Author: Laurence Chen

Date: 08:39:51 04/22/00

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On April 22, 2000 at 11:26:16, Laurence Chen wrote:

>On April 22, 2000 at 10:51:27, Pierre Bourget wrote:
>
>>Is it true in this position that Hiarcs play Qf7+ ?? because of the tablebase ?
>>Isn't it a little ridiculous.Look here for Tim Krabbe opinion:
>>
>>http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess2/diary.htm
>>
>>[D]5k2/2Q5/8/8/5p2/5P2/5P2/K7 w - - 0 1
>What's your point then?  I do this type of move against a human player, there
>reason why I do such thing is that the human player is too stubborn to resign,
>hence, he is asking for humiliation, and wants to take a long beating. So why
>not!!!!  I find playing against this type of position against a human player who
>does not want to resign in a totally hopeless position, then he deserves to be
>torture to a slow death.  I approve Hiarcs move, it still mates the opponent in
>25 moves.  A mate is a mate no matter how many moves. A win is a win.
>Laurence
I think you are both wrong and too hash to judge that Hiarcs 7.32 cannot play
chess. What if this was the 50th move for White?  How many of you would not play
the move 50. Qf7+, any other move would lead to the 50th move draw.  Because
this position is a setup position, one cannot assume this position starts from
move one.  The same rule about setting up position with castling possibilities.
Take this position as an example:
Black King on a1
White King on e1
White Rook on h2 and h1
[D] 8/8/8/8/8/8/7R/k3K2R w
And White mates in one !!!
Now the contreversy is castling, is it allowed or not, can one prove that the
either the Rook or King has not moved.
So Hiarcs take the surest and longest way to mate, and by giving a check it
forces the opponent to capture. I betcha you would say that capturing the pawn
is another altenative. Yes, true, but so what? It still does not mate the king
in the shortest number of move. This is my one penny opinion.
Laurence



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