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Subject: Re: Next Human vs Computer ratings list - I need opinions

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 09:12:02 05/19/00

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On May 19, 2000 at 10:27:04, blass uri wrote:

>On May 19, 2000 at 09:42:07, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On May 19, 2000 at 09:37:19, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>I am planning to publish an updated list list here with
>>>all rated human vs computer results for 40/2 events.
>>>
>>>Please let me know your thoughts on the following:
>>>
>>>1.  Exclude Performance Rating when 3 or fewer games
>>>    have been played by a program/hardware.
>>
>>I don't see why.
>>
>>>2.  Exclude forfiets and protest resignations (Dutch Championship),
>>>    and games where computers lost due to hardware, IP failures,
>>>    or operator error.
>>
>>I would definitely exclude forfeits and IP failures, but not the rest. In my
>>opinion, this list is interesting if it reflects the real performance of
>>programs in actual games. Hardware failures and operator's errors are part of
>>how a program plays. Forfeits and IP failures are not.
>>
>>Enrique
>
>Do you really think that losing on time is part of how shredder4 plays?
>
>I do not agree.
>I think that operator's error are not part of how a program plays and it is not
>fair to include the game that shredder lost on time in a winning position when
>the reason was not a bug in the program.

Then add the game Rebel-Shredder, Rebel-Hoffman etc, etc to the exception list.
The list will soon become endless. Forfeits and IP failures are exceptions which
are okay IMO.

Rebel-Hoffman: hardware failure -> counts.
Rebel-Shredder: operator troubles -> counts.
Shredder lost on time -> counts.
Rebel-GM Ralf Akesson lost on time -> counts.

Ed

>Uri



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