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Subject: Re: Just learning capability?

Author: Andrew Dados

Date: 12:13:01 06/12/00

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On June 12, 2000 at 14:56:00, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On June 12, 2000 at 14:28:33, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>There definitely is.
>>
>>Every few weeks someone posts (pick one)
>>a) using an opening book is cheating/illegal/evil
>>b) using endgame databases is cheating/illegal/evil
>>c) humans should be allowed to use computers when they play computers
>>d) some other inane assertion
>>e) all of the above
>>
>>Then a mess of people agree with him, a different mess of people disagree,
>>eveybody yells at everybody for a few days, and then things go back to normal.
>>
>>-Tom
>
>That's very convincing except that only option a) has anything to do with the so
>called anti-opening book camp. Very few of those arguments have, to my
>knowledge, been about cheating, illegality or just pure evil. As far as I'm
>concerned, I just wonder why it's so complicated to make a program play chess
>from the first to the final move on its own. I thought that was the whole idea
>behing computer chess, but I could be wrong of course. I would think that it's a
>challenge for programmers to make a program do exactly that. Is it just too
>difficult?
>
>Best wishes...
>Mogens

 It takes weeks of analysis to find some cool and sound novelty in opening.
After you play it - everybody picks it up (especially if you are some
acknowledged player, or publish it in Informant). How do you expect a comp to
find those things OTB? Lines some 10-15 moves long, like in Cohrane or Vienna or
Botvinnik slav or Qxb2 Najdorf or you_name_it...

 Besides - why should a program think over and over again about same position it
played already a dozen times?

-Andrew-



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